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Is "Austen was planting hints that Henry Tilney will turn out to be an abuser just as bad as his father and Catherine doesn't really have any happiness in store" a mainstream opinion in analysis circles, or did the complier of my Fancy Critical Edition just cherrypick essays to fit their weird "feminist"* outlook?

*(it's not. it doesn't seem very feminist to look at a woman's wish-fulfilment happy ending with a man who's imperfect but so is everyone and go "well actually he must be awful and it's a cautionary tale". also doesn't really seem to fit the way Austen approaches romance and endings.)

@bethanydelleman this seems like a question for you...

Honestly, my only response to this is wtf???

Henry Tilney?!!?? HENRY TILNEY?

But no, in all my time in the Jane Austen discourse/fandom, I've never heard anyone suggest this ever. I have heard a ton about how Henry Tilney, opposite to his father, enters female spaces with respect (he enjoys muslin with women, General Tilney takes over his daughter's responsibilities aggressively). I find this take genuinely insane.

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Okay, all those who do not accept Henry Tilney Supremacy, so in this chapter we learn that Henry was sent ahead by his father to find lodgings (which makes sense because we later learn the General is super picky). So Henry comes to Bath for a few days we can assume to look at places, and what does he do in the evening? He attends a ball. And what does he do at that ball? He asks the master of ceremonies to introduce him to a girl who isn't dancing and then is just so freaking friendly and charming.

What do you want women? Do you want a man who was dragged to a ball, is so profoundly rude that people don't even care how wealthy he is, and then calls you "tolerable"? Or do you want a man who goes to a ball by himself, for fun, and then does a comedy bit on the spot, requests that you write about him favourably in your diary, and then discusses fabric washing with your chaperone?

I know what I'm picking!

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Catherine and Henry met for the first time and I'm already charmed.

It's just so.... Precious.

He's kind and attentive. Witty and engaging. He's not disdainful or rude towards Catherine and he knows his muslin.

Is he about to become one of my favourite male character after just the first meeting? Probably yes. If only because he's so different from the main male character from the classics I've been reading. Provided I've only read like three. But still. I really like Henry Tilney.

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Henry and Catherine [northanger abbey, Jane Austen] sketch

Just finished reading the book and I wish it was longer 😭 They're by now my favorite couple of these kind of novels (I've already read "Pride and Prejudice", "Wuthering Heights" and "Jane Eyre").

(Please forgive me, I have no idea if Henry's suit is accurate at all to the those times)

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AITA for sending a guest home a little early?

u/GenerallyAwesome

I (M54) have two children, Elle (F24) and Harold (M26). We invited a houseguest Cathy (F17) to come and visit with Elle as they were good friends. Visits this long are normal where we live.

Everything was going well for a few weeks but then I found out that Cathy had lied about everything, her family, how many siblings she had, how much money her family as, basically everything. So I arranged to have her sent home. I think you can see why I wouldn't want a girl in my house who has been deceiving my whole family.

I think I did the right thing, but my son said I was an AH for sending her home early and without anyone to accompany her. AITA?

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u/MysteriousMatilda

YTA and this is so far from the truth I don't even know where to begin. I'm "Harold"

Cathy never lied to you, we knew exactly who she was, you chose to get your information from other (unreliable) sources.

You didn't "arrange" to have her sent home, you told her to leave at 6am the next morning and didn't even check if she had money! If Elle hadn't given her some she would have been stranded somewhere and not at home.

You sent a 17 year old girl on public transportation for SEVENTY MILES.

I can't believe that you wrote this down after I told you exactly why you were the AH before I left to make sure Cathy was okay. And for those who are worried about her, she is fine and safe at home. No thanks to my father.

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Anonymous asked:

Hi! I love Northanger and Catherine but am hoping you can help me appreciate Henry. He just comes off like such a smug, condescending and cocky jerk to me. He seems to really consider himself superior to everyone he interacts with. Please help me see his strengths, because I really want to love him and to think my Catherine has ended up with someone who appreciates her!

Henry Tilney is probably my favourite of the Austen heroes, actually, but he is a tricky one because a lot of his dialogue is really ambiguous so I think how appealing people find him as a character is very dependent on how they read him. 

On the surface, he can come across as very condescending and arrogant, but my interpretation of his character has always been that he is a) incredibly jaded and b) highly ironic, and rarely literally means what he’s saying. One of the key quotes that defines Tilney for me is actually when his sister tells him off:

“You may as well make Miss Morland understand yourself - unless you mean to have her think you intolerably rude to your sister, and a great brute in your opinion of women in general. Miss Morland is not used to your odd ways.”

What this says to me, and how I’ve always read him, is that almost everything he says is sarcastic, satirising ideas about gender and language (tbh I often think Tilney as a character is the closest to being an insert for Austen’s own opinions, his manner reminds me a lot of her letters). This sarcasm is made sharper by the fact that he is, in some ways, a fairly cynical person. I mean, you have consider that Tilney is a man who:

  • grew up in the shadow of an authoritarian, domineering father
  • lost his mother at 17
  • has an older brother that he knows to have committed multiple indiscretions which who knows what consequences
  • has watched his sister, who he’s very close to, be isolated and unhappy at home with their father and unable to marry the man she loves

So, personally, I’ve never seen it as him considering himself superior to others, precisely, as it is him having seen a lot of the worst of people and seeing that possibly more easily that he really sees the good in them. Tilney’s educated and has read a lot, and on top of that as a clergyman his work directly involves interacting a lot with other people, and all of that combines to make him probably the most perceptive character in the book. He’s certainly a lot more perceptive than Catherine; in some respects his relationship with Catherine mirrors Knightley’s with Emma, but where Emma is blinded to reality by her own arrogance, Catherine is naive and inexperienced with an overactive imagination.

But Tilney also never treats Catherine with anything other than kindness and consideration - he jokes and teases, but there’s never anything malicious in it and he jokes about himself just as much. He appreciates Catherine’s love of Gothic novels and doesn’t tell her it’s a waste of time but uses it to connect with her further. He doesn’t know about how far Catherine’s imaginings have gone so cheerily jokes around with her about his house being filled with horrors. He doesn’t hold it against her when she apparently breaks her engagement with him to go with the Thorpes, and he doesn’t ridicule or shame her for not seeing the truth about them but admires her optimism and ability to see the best in people.

He also handles the whole debacle at Northanger pretty magnanimously - I mean, Catherine accuses his father of murdering his mother and he would have every right to be furious about it, and could easily have been nasty about it. But he takes it in stride and while he does expresses some disappointment, he gently encourages her to use her common sense and think more rationally. 

And that’s because Tilney genuinely delights in Catherine’s optimism and her character. He loves spending time with her and all the individual things that make her her; all he encourages her to do is to mature and think a little more about some times, not to change anything about who she is. I think she helps bring some of that optimism back to him, which is why he’s so willing to cut ties with his father rather than give her up at the end.

As a character, Tilney’s also deliberately subversive for a hero at the time. He enjoys all the same novels as the women, he shops for fabric for his sister’s dresses, his closest friend is his sister. He’s a much more feminine hero than many of the other men in Austen, which is a deliberate choice as he’s a subversion of the “Gothic hero” that was popular at the time and which the book is generally satirising. 

There is a level of arrogance of some of what he says and does, yes, but he’s actually a much gentler, softer character than most fictional heroes. A lot of his traits are refracted in Austen’s other men in particular, but none of them have quite the same combination of warmth and humour that Tilney does. 

All that said, I think it’s important to remember with any kind of reading of Northanger that it was the first book that Austen wrote and wasn’t published in her lifetime. If she had lived longer, there’s no telling whether it ever would have been or if she would have rewritten/edited it, if we would still have it in the form it’s in. And I think you can definitely see Austen learning as a writer in Northanger and figuring out what makes a hero and a heroine - and then going to deconstruct those ideas further and in a more mature way in her later books.  

Also, if you have issues with interpreting Tilney on the page, I’d recommend going to watch the 2007 adaptation of the book. Honestly, God bless whoever decided to cast JJ Feild as Henry Tilney because he’s just perfect and really captures that sense of ironic but warm-hearted humour that to me is what makes the character. 

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