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whenthegoldrays

Much as I try to understand and accept Austen’s choice to have Fanny end up with Edmund in MP, I admit I’m struggling with his character after having read Wives and Daughters, because he pales so much in comparison to Roger Hamley. Roger is proof that you can see a girl non-romantically, be interested in someone else, and yet still treat your original friend with kindness and not forget about her. *glares at Edmund when he went into the avenue without Fanny*

So like, I don’t dislike Edmund, I never have, but I simply can’t love him like I love Roger, because the flaws I’ve tried to rationalize and forgive become much more apparent in comparison.

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onlymollygibson

Roger Hamley is up there with Gilbert Blythe as a man who makes other men look bad just by being himself. Mrs Gaskell knew what she was doing!

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bethanydelleman
Anonymous asked:

I find the discourse around Edmund Bertram as Fanny's eventual husband fascinating.

One thing I noticed is that Jane Austen writes him as Fanny's cousin and not a love interest. As the love interest, so many people dislike him because he's not a good one. I think this is true, but a lot of the actions that people dislike him for seem pretty normal for a cousin. For example, a guy ignoring his younger cousin because he likes somebody and wants to hang out with his crush instead of his cousin. Lending Fanny's horse to Mary is still pretty rude and inconsiderate, but it's far worse if it's the love interest rather than a cousin. There have been so many awful family members in Austen's books, this one especially, he's easily the best one to her in the Bertram family.

I think the main thing is that Edmund only sees her as his cousin and treats her as one, while the audience is judging his actions as her future husband. We're all expecting him to act like an Austen hero, but Edmund doesn't have that script.

bethanydelleman answered:

This is true, and it's why I always want just a few more chapters of Mansfield Park because we don't get any of the romantic relationship between Fanny & Edmund.

However, most of what bothers me specifically about Edmund doesn't depend on if he's a cousin or a lover: it's his total inability to listen to women. He doesn't listen to Mary, his crush, and he doesn't listen to Fanny, his cousin, even when he explicitly sought out her advice. It's infuriating! Mary is not that deceptive, she keeps saying who she is and what she wants out loud and Edmund is like, "Aw, she's cute with her little jokes." NO DUDE, THOSE ARE HER REAL OPINIONS! Edmund isn't even attractive to me as a lover of Mary Crawford because he won't listen to her.

And the chapter where he pretends he'll comfort and listen to Fanny after the proposal but then dismissess all her concerns and tries to push her towards Henry? It's terrible! Listen to her!!!

Anyway, I guess I completely disagree with you. The problem isn't that Edmund is a cousin and not a lover, it's that he hails from Mansplain Park.

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bethanydelleman

Jane Austen Charted #8

@allpartofthejob​ Thank you for this great suggestion! This is a graph of how I feel about Edmund Bertram as I read the novel Mansfield Park:

One Reader’s Feelings Towards Edmund Bertram, Graphed

X axis: Time

Y Axis: Emotional response to Edmund (negative to positive)

Edmund is kind of fascinating because I don’t think there is any other character that takes me on such an emotional roller coaster! I mostly just like Fanny the whole time. Henry Crawford is a pretty simple: Dislike - Hate - Love - Oh gross why did you sleep with her cousin?

I honestly can’t think of another character in Jane Austen’s entire works for whom I have such complex emotions. I think the real problem is that Edmund does something great, like getting Fanny a horse, and then he ruins it by doing the opposite, giving her horse to Mary. And at the end he does so many things that I so strongly dislike that he just can’t recover.

I feel like we also don’t get a very strong moral ending from Edmund. He does finally see the truth about Mary, but he also admits that he almost went back. It’s not a clear rejection and he is still hung up on her for a long while. And while I find that realistic, it isn’t a very satisfying conclusion.

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bethanydelleman
Anonymous asked:

I've seen some people say that Fanny/Edmund is grooming. Would you agree with that?

No, not at all.

This question probably is in reference to this one about Emma and Mr. Knightley. I won't define grooming again because the explanation is in that post.

Fanny and Edmund have a stronger Pygmalion vibe than Emma and Mr. Knightley, especially because of sentences like this:

He knew her to be clever, to have a quick apprehension as well as good sense, and a fondness for reading, which, properly directed, must be an education in itself. Miss Lee taught her French, and heard her read the daily portion of history; but he recommended the books which charmed her leisure hours, he encouraged her taste, and corrected her judgment: he made reading useful by talking to her of what she read, and heightened its attraction by judicious praise. (Ch 2)

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thoughtsonausten

I'm finding it hard to get behind Edmund as the love interest. While the cousin thing is the first turnoff for me, I can ignore it and just pretend he's adopted. But what I can't ignore is the fact that he is completely taken in by Mary Crawford. Despite the clear differences in values that they have, he is almost blind to them because of how beautiful and charming she is. It's just hard for me to want him to end up with Fanny when he is so infatuated with Mary at the moment. I personally think Fanny could do better than him. 🤔

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