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*sighs eternally*

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Just in case anyone missed it, I just wanna point out that Rey’s last words to Finn before he left Maz’s cantina for the Outer Rim are “Don’t go” and as she watches Finn leave she literally hears her inner child screaming out “Don’t go! No!” Like, Finn leaving is literally paralleled to Rey’s family abandoning her on Jakku and watching him leave is so painful that it triggers a Force memory of what was probably the worst day of her life and now that I’ve realized this I can’t be forced to suffer alone with these feelings.

but then he went back

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I just realised where Kylo got his name from:

Ky = sKYwalker

Lo = soLO

Ren = literally just his birth name with an R

which means that when he was choosing his super scary Dark Lord name, he just mashed up the surnames of the most positive figures in his life. poor sod can’t even evil right

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taiey

literally a ‘what is your star wars name’ meme

2nd two letters of your mother’s last name Last two letters of your father’s last name

1st three letters of your name but with an R

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A theory on the making of The Force Awakens

The Force Awakens was great! However, I felt while I was watching it that there were some very weird choices in there. Clunky and strange dialogue, which is not unusual to the franchise, but still felt oddly out of place. 

So I thought I would relate a theory here not about the lore within Star Wars, but about the actual making of the latest film.  Obviously spoilers ahead:

When they first revealed that Han and Leia were Ren’s parents, the did it by having Snoke just say it to Ren. He’s just like “The plans are on the Millennium Falcon with your father… HAN SOLO!” and I remember thinking the first time I watched it “Huh… that feels like a really dumb way to reveal this fact. Just having some guy say it? Isn’t there some cooler way to do that?”

Then, at the end, Han says “Take off that mask!” and Ren says “What do you expect to see?” and Han dramatically proclaims “the face of my SON!” and it was a pretty big feeling moment. It was this big emotional impact! I was like “THAT’S where they should have had it happen! What the hell, why didn’t they do that?”

Then, by the 3rd time I’d watched it, I figured it out!

For those of you that don’t know, ADR stands for “Automated Dialogue Recording,” it basically means dubbing. It’s something you do in film and animation if an actor didn’t talk clearly enough, or maybe there was wind on the mic when it was being filmed, or maybe you need to clear up a quick tiny story point or something like that. You finish up your editing, then have the actor come in and record a couple of lines in the sound studio. It’s a mere fraction of the cost of going back onto location and shooting the scene over again with a new line, so it’s a common way in film to quickly fix small things that need changing either technically or in the story.

Anyway, every single time that a character says something like “han is your dad” or “Ren is our son” or any reference to that exact linkage, it’s ADR.

Every single time.

It’s always framed so that if Leia says it, we see the back of her head. If Snoke says it, he’s animated, so it can be changed relatively quickly and easily. If Ren says it, that’s not a big deal because everything he says is ADR anyway.

Someone somewhere along the line thought it was too confusing to only reveal it at the end, so they went back and changed everything in post. Perhaps they thought it was too similar to Empire Strikes Back or something, maybe they thought it would change the tone from being about a reveal to being about a family thing, we’ll never know. The point is, that’s why the dialogue is so clunky in some places. If you take out every moment where they mention their son, it’s actually pretty okay dialogue that builds up this mystery of what happened to their kid, then there’s a big amazing reveal at the end!

There is only one shot where Leia says “bring back our son” and you see her say it, but she didn’t say “Ren” so if we weren’t told before who their son was, it easily could have played as “wait so who’s her son then??”

The scene where Ren is talking to Vader’s mask could also have been some completely different dialogue. It could have been the dialogue we originally saw in the trailer for example, and we’d never hear the “I’ll finish what you started… grandfather” part.

Anyway, that’s just my guess on it. It all basically boils down to this:

I was thinking this the moment I left the theater. It felt like a studio note. ADR proves it.

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