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non scarlet lady question, how would you had written kagami and luka entering the show? What would you have them interact with the plot or how would they affect stuff?

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Well, Gabriel wasn't a chosen, so it makes sense that he wouldn't have much in common with Nooroo. As for Wayzz with Nino and Fu, I think it may have something to do with attitude. both are *generally* incredibly chill people. They're also very quick to protect (also generally because bad writing sort of destroyed that) like with Nino repeatedly trying to protect his friends (Alya, Marinette, and Adrien) and Fu's attempt to go to fight HM before he realized he wasn't in any state to.

No one’s saying that there isn’t a chemistry between kwami and the characters chosen, we’re talking about coding. 

You know, like how in anime the Green Haired character is the Green Magical Girl

Or how the Power Rangers walked around in their civilian life in “their” characters.

Guess which one SHE is

Look, this isn’t a big deal, it’s just a thing I noticed. At first the coding was really subtle and easily overlooked - Marinette wears polka dots, but they’re small and usually concealed whereas Adrien wears black but not like a lot of black. So I looked for ways to link the civilians to their superheros and the consistent thing was their eyes. Marinette and Tikki had blue eyes, Adrien and Plagg had green eyes. I thought it was cute/clever subtle coding to have the kwamis and chosens share eye colors.

But for the others, they did different coding which is where it gets confusing. There’s a reason everyone and their mom predicted Chloe getting the Bee, but only a few actually thought Alya would get the Fox (most people were just hoping). Because of coding. On the one hand, Alya is more in line with Marinette and Adrien because her coding was secretive and not in your face (her orange top isn’t even solid orange c’mon) but they went with even LESS coding for her because she doesn’t have the same eye color as Trixx. (seriously I would’ve loved for Rena Rouge to also have purple eyes)

On the other hand, Chloe. I mean, LOOK at her - The Yellow, The Stripes, The Eye Color Match. Hell, her bedroom has honeycomb patterns, it’s like they were beating us with a bat with her! She had a big flashing sign saying BEE MIRACULOUS USER ever since we learned that there was a bee.

And then there’s our outlier. Nino. Who not only has zero coding, but has wrong coding! The blue color, the giant eye, the pops of red? Everything about him says PEACOCK MIRACULOUS USER! But instead he got the turtle? Not saying anything bad about him being the turtle, but it is…confusing.

And that’s what it comes down to (as a little nitpick). It’s confusing. But it’s not like there aren’t advantages to avoiding coding - after all, if everyone went around in “their” colors then there wouldn’t be any fun in guessing which characters are going to get what miraculous because it would be too obvious. (As it is, the season 2-3 opening kinda ruined some of the fun for me). That’s why I thought them sticking to something initially overlooked, like eye color, could’ve been an easy alternative to making everyone dress like their superhero forms. 

Im in no way against salt (in fact I live for it) but Im honestly starting to miss pre-frozer/chameleon/oblivio salt Adrien. Do you plan on ever adressing Adriens more major flaws in Scarlet Lady, or just skimming over his more "nice guy" moments?

I guess you could call it skimming. It’s more like circumstance never allows him to BE the “nice guy”. He’s not flirting with Scarlet Lady (barf), he would reject the “destiny” of the two halves belonging together, he’s full into Marinette (and eventually Marigold). With so many new stressers in his life, he would never want to pressure Marinette because what if she leaves? And the reason they can’t be together isn’t because she’s saying no - it’s because he can’t ask. He’s already Adrien - super model, champion fencer, man with no freetime - and then they threw Chat Noir at him which wOULD’VE been fun if he weren’t carrying all the weight. He can’t ask Marinette to be his girl because he doesn’t have the time or energy to be there for her and it’s not fair.

Canon Adrien is a Nice Guy because he keeps going for it even though he’s been told no.

Plus a big component of SL Adrien’s characterization change is that he’s done with being pushed around. He’s done with people like Chloe and his Dad pushing his boundaries, and in turn, is more aware of other people’s boundaries. Since he starts saying “No”, he takes “no” more seriously. So IF those Nice Guy situations came around, he would be more respectful of what Marinette was telling him.

if u were to have a miraculous, which one would u have???? just curious :)

I don’t know much about them Zodiacs, so I’ll go off being the old lady of the group

If you do Animan and Nino says he has a crush on Marinette will Adrien help still or make up an excuse and then proceeds to scream in his pillow with mixed emotions😅??

It’s gonna be a lot more awkward than that, because Adrien isn’t that good at keeping his feeling a secret so Nino knows he’s essentially in competition with his own bro and Adrien knows he’s not in a good position to date her thanks to him being the Responsible Hero so he can’t exactly tell Nino NOT to date her.

Basically Adrien will do his best to put his own feelings aside but Nino can tell it’s eating him up.

how do you draw marinettes hair? it’s so stiff in the show i cant make it look like hair 😫

Well my dude I don’t really have only one way to draw Marinette, but I’ll do my best to help ya out:

1. Start with one bald cutie

2. Draw one of those split fan leaf things, starting where Marinette’s bangs part on the right side.

3. Add a spike to finish out the bangs on the right side to demonstrate the part.

4. Draw some more leaves in front of the ears.

5. Fill out the skull and give her a round head.

6. Draw the basic shape of the pigtails. Go for a fat strawberry. Then add on her “antennae”.

7. You could finish here, but let’s add some detail. This could be lines towards the pigtails to show the pull of the hair or fluffing out the pigtails to make it more like…hair.

8. And you’re done! One Cute Patootie Who Kicks All the Booty. You can also switch up the shapes of the individual components to change the vibe!

Due to how bouncy the hair animation is in the show, I tend to lean towards the lighter, fluffier look, but you can add weight by narrowing the shapes. Also think about the placement of the pigtails - for a more mature look, bring them in towards the neck, but for a more innocent look, place them around the level of the ears. Any higher, though, and it starts to enter the realm of Artistic Liberty. It’s cute! But we all know that’s not where Marinette wears her pigtails XD

Though I totally agree that if Alya and Nino were just going out on dates, they should have taken their sibs because theirs nothing wrong with that~ But what if they were out training together (like we saw in miraculer) and they couldn't let the kids know? Curious to know your opinion ^^

They have no problem parkoring together in the day time in full view of everyone, so I think they don’t have a problem scheduling alone time. That’s the underlying issue here, Alya and Nino double booking themselves and instead of making the responsible decision to move their “movie date” to when they’re not asked to watch their siblings, they instead pull in someone the kids don’t know to watch over them instead.

Thoughts on Antibug??

In a word? It’s a mess.

The Akumas: It suffers from being split between two akumas. Vanisher, the akuma who was an aCTUal threat shirked on giving Sabrina due attention. If it’s true that Chloe and Sabrina fight all the time, they could’ve given THIS fight more build up to make it feel like this fight was different from all the others and therefore a good reason to be akumatized. Getting the silent treatment from Chloe is a good reason to be put into that kind of despair for Sabrina, but it could’ve been even better. AND the fallout/resolution should’ve been given more attention.

Chloe apologizing, for one thing. A real apology. Chloe realizing how she messed up. Something to give this “friendship” some actual weight.

And then Antibug, the title akuma, end up looking really weak. I’ve thought this about Queen Wasp too, but because they killed time in the episode for other things (in this case Vanisher) Chloe’s akuma didn’t get the full time like other akumas, SO she was dealt with super quickly. Antibug and Queen Wasp end up looking really weak because of this. Other akumas Ladybug and Chat Noir have to think critically and have setbacks where the akuma looks like it might come out on top. But in Antibug, the only reason there’s a “set back” with Chat Noir being captured is because Ladybug is coming right off the last akuma and needs time to recover. Otherwise, I firmly believe that set back wouldn’t have happened.

Chloe: What was it that akumatized Chloe? Ooooh no, you’re “idol” didn’t believe you about where an akuma item was and got fed up with you even though you were literally tripping up the heroes while they fought the akuma YOU caused. It’s a pity party. 

Particularly in this season, we’ve seen many perfectly valid reasons to be akumatized (usually thanks to how terrible Chloe was). Intense bullying, humiliation, job loss. Real world reasons. So in comparison. Chloe’s reasoning only highlights how egocentric she is. That such a minor slight as someone actually disciplining her was enough to get her akumatized.

Now look - this is a really good example of character building (not developing, but like…informing about the character). I mean, it really solidifies how easily angered Chloe is, how petty and selfish she is. But that doesn’t make her, like, a sympathetic character. It just solidifies her shitty bully character. I don’t feel bad for Chloe in Antibug, I’m…annoyed that she doesn’t learn a lesson.

She doesn’t even come to the conclusion to make up with Sabrina on her own! She has to be told to fix things! Maybe they could’ve ended Vanisher with the two friends NOT making up, and then Antibug is born from how awful Chloe’s day is without Sabrina (and would probably be a totally different Akuma, but honestly that’s for the best). So when Chloe swallows her pride to apologize to Sabrina, it’s from her genuine wish to have her friend back and Sabrina accepting it comes from Chloe’s growth. And then there’s a dynamic shift with the two. And it stays (which is important because Zag is allergic to Chloe actually becoming a better person).

Ladybug: This was definitely one of the episodes that started the trend of Marinette/Ladybug-Apologizing-For-Things-That-Aren’t-Her-Fault with a side of A-Fault-In-Marinette-That-Was-Invented-Just-For-The-Episode. I don’t know why the fuck they decided that a Chloe Centric episode was a good one to throw in a lesson for Ladybug to learn and I DEFINITELY don’t know what the lesson they went with is “Learn to accept help and advice from others.”

I’m sorry, but are we watching a different show? Did they forget the 10+ episodes before this where Ladybug has a fucking partner?? When has Ladybug EVER had problems taking advice from someone???

Because Zag can pretend these episodes exist in a vacuum, but they don’t. WE know that Chloe has been a pain for BOTH sides of Marinette’s identities. WE know that Chloe has lied loads of times and twisted things to serve HER narrative. WE know that Chloe CAN’T be trusted.

But even if you follow the dump ML rule of every episode existing on it’s own, they set up that Chloe lied directly to Ladybug’s face in this very episode! She told Ladybug that there’s no reason for her to be attacked, because eeeeeverybody loves her! But this is immediately proved false by the Butler telling the real story of Sabrina’s akumatization - something Ladybug thanks him for BY THE WAY.

And then Chloe follows up this lie by repeatedly getting in the way of the fight, endangering Chat Noir and Ladybug and slowing down Sabrina’s rescue. Why. WHY would Ladybug believe a damn thing coming out of Chloe’s mouth!? And even if she did listen, that’s not the fucking point! More irritating than her lies is her “help”, which is detrimental and dangerous! But the episode doesn’t focus on that nonsense.

Basically, LadybugWasNotWrong2k19

TLDR: This is episode has a pacing problem, a Moral of the Day problem, weak akumas, an unsatisfying resolution, and tries to shape the narrative to pity the season long bully but instead just proves how self-centered and petty she is. And it did Sabrina dirty.