ENOUGH with the “surrogate father/son/brother/etc.” Jason was adopted. DC can retcon it to whatever they want now that they have Damian as the “real son”, but Jason is Bruce’s first legal kid, Dick is the first kid he raised, and Cassandra is his first daughter (Helena Wayne doesn’t even exist outside of Earth-2, get over her).
from “Tales of the Teen Titans #50″ published in 1984. Dick talks about how Jason is to be legally adopted while he isn’t. Jason was created in 1983, so he’s always been adopted basically lol. I dont know why writers keep going back and forth on this, even if the reboot from crisis on infinite earths changed Jasons backstory….
Dick and Bruce referred to each other as like family for a very long time, here’s some stuff from the 50s
batman v1 #20, 57, and 66.
Detective comics 145 - note that dick was said to be adopted sometimes back then :)
Also dick would later be legally adopted as an adult :)
From Gotham Knights issues (i forgot but possibly 17 or before), #17 and #21, all published around 2001 and 2002.
It’s really annoying that writers keep trying to go back on these and pretend it isn’t canon; theres really no point to it, since they act like family anyways, and a reboot shouldn’t’ve gotten rid of something as simple as adoption imo, esp since they claim the reboots are for things like making continuity more accessible/streamlined lol
And Cassandra and Bruce :) (from batgirl 2000 #33)
I rly don’t get why so many writers and fans try to act like they aren’t really family or even pretend Bruce wouldn’t legally adopt them…. esp since he like. Has. Did. Legally. (tim too but no one forgets that because Tim brings it up constantly esp in Red Robin lol)
@aalghul yep! thats all very true… Dick and Jason these days keep going back and forth on that, esp the legality (and one bit in a RHATO vol 1 annual, Tim tries to claim that since Jason died he is no longer legally Bruce’s kid which… is really dumb lol)
But yeah as much as Jason and Dick post-flashpoint call Bruce dad/Bruce calls them his children/sons people like to argue that they don’t count legally which is so stupid.
Also the last thing is in fact used to explain why bruce didnt adopt dick until later a lot of the time
That being that a single man wanting to adopt a child was–and often still is–seen as suspicious (which even irl it was–hence seduction of the innocent claiming awful things about their relationship) and wasn’t usually legally allowed for various reasons, esp with the idea that a nuclear family (i.e. a married man and woman) is what a child needs to thrive.
(I believe this is from Batman vol 1 but I dont remember what issue)
So is there a comic where Bruce get married for legal purposes so he can adopt his children? Because him being casually married to someone could be so funny.
I mean i dont know if he ever legally divorced talia so theres that but itd be so funny if he eas married to someone else random who did it for tax reasons or something nfnfnfn
As far as I know, they never actually got divorced, the marriage was just ignored. So, it totally works but it involved Dick signing the papers to let Talia adopt him and that’s hilarious to me. He would be pouting the entire time.
Though was that marriage legally binding? The dialogue around its kind of vague. But also Dick resenting his step-mom Talia is hilarious cos honestly, that’s what like 80% of his contention with her often comes off as XD
It was never legally recorded, but Ra’s did say that it operated under the legal terms used in his country. Bruce didn’t consider it real because he’s an idiot and values “stopping crime” and “not marrying a supervillain’s daughter” over having the most perfect woman in his universe as his wife. I would never.
Dick never really has a solid “Bruce, she’s evil!” argument. Even when Talia was being written kind of off, it still looked like the only child of a single father who can’t stand his dad finally having a stable relationship. I adore it.