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I'm trying to catch up on my pull and I have been laughing about this for DAYS now. Damian and Bruce working together for the first time in a while, Bruce tells Damian to be careful, and then IMMEDIATELY sets off an alarm after Damian informs him he has his first girlfriend I'm-

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So when Bats one hit KO'd Guy, Dinah took pics and faxed them to Diana. Do y'all think she like, got a copy framed and had Bruce sign it

I'm not gonna lie, considering I don't think there's been a time in canon that Batman has ever actually said "no metas in Gotham" I get really uncomfortable that this is a running gag in Batfandom. Like people seem to think it's a funny joke but it comes across as honestly? Kind of bigoted? Especially when there's next to no real basis for it in canon.

Like people love to bring it up now mostly in reference to either superbat or now that we have an explicitly powered member of the batfamily that the fandom at large acknowledges, but Duke isn't even the first metahuman member of the Batfamily! When Batman got his back broken by Bane in the 90s it was literally a metahuman that took over the role of Batman (Azrael for the record). Catwoman has at times been implied to be a meta (though this has mostly been dropped in more recent years).

Even if you consider Duke as the only powered Bat, Batman obviously didn't like kick him out as soon as he showed powers dsijrigjae

Black Canary, as I always yell to the skies, is from Gotham! She was born and raised there, and has often worked out of Gotham. The Birds of Prey are normally stationed out of Gotham, which has Dinah on it, but sometimes has other various metas as well. Wildcat (Ted Grant) does his solo work out of Gotham, it's where his gym is.

And even better! Bruce would be used to metas being in Gotham - the JSA used to be headquartered in Gotham.

That's even ignoring the fact that there are plenty of members of the Rogues Gallery that have meta abilities, plenty of which walk the line of villain and anti-hero (such as Nu52 Killer Croc and Clayface). There was an entire mini-series in Rebirth that was just about all the "monsters" (monster metas) that live in Gotham. 90s and 00s Gotham was legit cursed, there was so much magical nonsense going on in the city.

Like maybe it shouldn't rub me as much as it does, but I am really starting to hate that joke.

I know I’m late but THE BATMAN SPOILERS!

In a post 9/11 world and just in todays political arena, I think it can be really hard to grapple with Bruce as a character even though arguably you can’t expect comic book worlds/cities to play by the same rules as the real world, that’s never been the case, but they handled Bruce’s struggle with his anger and his quest for vengeance SO WELL.

They deal with the fact that yes he wants justice but he is motivated by his hurt and rage over his parents’ murder, and so he sees it as not only him maintaining his parents’ legacy but also as the only way, as opposed to philanthropy and politics like his parents were involved in. Him having to grapple with his father’s mistakes, the fact that there are gaps in his knowledge just by the nature of his upbringing (being a rich kid) but also all the years he lost to trauma? Him having to learn that vengeance and fear aren’t going to exact real change?

Honestly, I kinda hate that people lean so hard into the “Batman created all of his villains” because I think that defeats the purpose of Batman in a lot of ways, but I think this movie handled things really well in that aspect. Because Batman was using too much fear and violence, and he realized throughout the movie that was sending the wrong message, and that while those could be useful tools that is NOT who he wants to be.

Bruce distinctly does not willingly touch people outside of superheroing (aside from Selina kissing him) up until when Alfred reaches out his hand because they are finally on the same page about what family and their legacy means, and Bruce takes his hand. And then, after the Riddler follower calls himself vengeance, he spends the rest of the rescue scene reaching out to the city. He risks himself, and then becomes the beacon in the darkness, and reaches out not only to the scared little kid inside of him that is represented in Mitchell’s kid, giving him hope for the first time, he also reaches out to the new Mayor who he ignored when she called him out on not doing enough for the city. He leads them all to safety, and continues to reach out and help people, carrying the wounded, etc. 

THIS is what Batman is. Bruce has so much anger and hurt inside of him, and sometimes he loses himself to that (all of his “losing his shit” scenes were all like, so well placed? Maybe I’ll change my mind on a second watch through but, it didn’t feel like just senseless macho anger you get from other Batman stuff) but in the end he wants to heal himself and his city, he wants to make things better, and that isn’t through fear, it’s through giving them hope and being a light in the darkness!! He does what others won’t but he also takes care of his city.

Anyway, this movie got Batman in a way that startled me, I wasn’t prepared for it and I’m still riding the high of it. Gods I hope they make another movie and I really hope they include Dick Grayson as a lot of people have been calling for.

One of the things that amuses me about the "no metas in Gotham thing" is that it really is just Bruce being annoying about keeping his friends out his city because like.... There have always been metas in Gotham and he knows this. The JSA was headquartered out of Gotham originally. Up until recently, the only time Black Canary didn't live in Gotham was when she was actively in a relationship with Green Arrow or if she happened to be living in a JL headquarters. At one point they claimed Selina was a meta who could talk to cats. Technically, Azrael could count as a metahuman since he's enhanced and he was Batman during Knighfall.

I'm not even sure if the "no metas in Gotham" thing is even a canon thing or something fanon fabricated NGL but either way it amuses me

my temp tag for bruce is “batdad” bc im lazy about thinking of a new tag and yall dont know... how many times ive almost tagged this man batdaddy...

Batman is so much more fun if we just collectively finally accept that the strongest moral part of him is his no-killing rule. Like this is a man who believes in justice not necessarily the law. (Yes, he technically is seen as law and order, yada yada but he chose to commit the crime of being a vigilante every night because the legal system was too corrupt for him, he knows that the law is fucked and he does things to try and fix that but that is the long term solution fucking Batman is his short term solution.) Depending on the backstory, he either fucks off into other countries while leaving his silver spoon behind, canonically stealing to live and the like, or ends up getting trained by the League of Assassins??? He has a whole undercover persona that is just him being a mob boss. He consistently commits illegal surveillance on his own friends and corporate espionage because his competitors are largely all immoral bastards. He works with Gordon but literally only Gordon, and is constantly in lowkey anti-cop and anti-surveillance state storylines (literally what Future State is arguably about, just packaged for the less radical reader). Y’all can’t make him this stuck up goody-two-shoes type (goody two shoes in a different way than Superman mind) and also the most paranoid and asshole bastard out there that’s not how this works disghriegjaeri. His whole schtick is that he will do what it takes, basically everything short of killing. (This also swings in the other direction as when he has his money, he uses it to fund social welfare programs and the like to stop crime the way we’ve proven it does irl- lowering poverty rates. Like superhero world works a little different because yaknow, aliens, demons, the fucking Joker, etc. but we still do often see the other side of the coin in Batverse.)  Just because he functions on a stricter moral scale than basically every one of his kids doesn’t change that fact.

Idk what ever the point of this post was, sometimes the way people (both fans and comic book writers) write Bruce just absolutely baffles me.

Jason... Jason why

Batfandom should utilize phantom of the opera and love never does more- not like Story wise the musicals are whack and we don't need more people romanticizing the phantom. But the lyrics???? For literally all the characters?? *Chefs kiss* the phantom's masks allusions are obvious but also Raoul? "Beneath this mask i wear, there's nothing of me!" Perfect riveting great batman and co identity angst fuel right there

Jarro! Jarro! Jarro!

hELLO? BATMAN PUT BOMBS ON THE MOON?

Because it's father's day I need to know- do the batkids know that they have a new sibling in the form of Jarro or like, is Bruce just keeping it on the DL that he accidentally raised a starfish that has adopted him and wants to become robin I'm not actually caught up with the series I've just been laughing about this for ten minutes

*bursts in* au where Gotham is basically like Night Vale- time doesn't work, people just straight up yell "INTERLOPER" at anyone from out of town (esp metropolis), probably exists in a pocket dimension, etc.

Listen this is probably already in part how outsiders view Gotham but like, I want someone to lean into it SUPER hardcore

Listen... I love stoically affection Alfred raising Bruce, and then being the soft touch for the bat kids later on in life, but honestly nothing with beat the pure chaos of Gotham Alfred. Just fucking giving Bruce his fathers watch like "heres his watch, now go take that and beat the shit out of Tommy fucking Elliot with it" like GOD that was so funny

Haven't watched Dark Knight in years, and I'm watching it for a class and damn, Bruce really was eye-fucking Harvey hard core during that infamous double date/dinner damn