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Watching the behind-the-scenes of Episode 7 is so revelatory. Rafe Judkins and the other producers talk consistently about what Siuan did to Moiraine from Moiraine's point of view, emphasizing how hurt Moiraine is by it and that Siuan compelling Moiraine is deliberately meant to remind Moiraine of what Ishamael did to her. Like, absolutely none of this is considered from Siuan's pov, it's consistently discussed from how hurt Moiraine is by it, and if that isn't just revelatory of how Siuan has been used at every point in this season so far.

Ultimately, what is the supposed romance I'm supposed to see here in them deliberately paralleling what Siuan does to Moiraine to what a Forsaken does to Moiraine?

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if someone tells me to WAFO again I'm going to scream like I have been watching as they've systematically taken 90% of Siuan's book scenes and given them to other characters and then assigned her the book actions of the woman who tortured her.

RAFO/WAFO isn't "maybe they're going to claw back every single choice they've made about a character over two seasons"

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I'm sorry but I'm feeling so frustrated and upset with what they've done with Siuan's character.

YES, it's an adaptation. AND YES, adaptations change things.

BUT the show has made changes to Siuan's character that are FUNDAMENTALLY opposed to her character in the books, and often the EXACT OPPOSITE decision that she made in the books.

  • They gave Siuan's scene about a sword of air not being much use to Liandrin, and have her use blades of air to defend herself-- which causes her to immediately lose when face to face with Lanfear. She literally makes the mistake that she warns against in the books.
  • In the books, she lets Rand go and trusts the pattern and is deposed and stilled for it. She undermines Tower norms and risks everything for it. In the show, she scoffs at Moiraine's trust in fate and tries to cage Rand because it's Tower law. Literally the opposite of her attitude and actions under almost exactly the same circumstances.
  • She controls Moiraine with the oath. Setting aside the fact that they completely brushed aside the sacred way in which (non-BA) Aes Sedai view the oaths (and the fact that it took a hunt for the Black Ajah to do any sort of experimentation with it). It also is diametrically opposed to the way that Siuan and Moiraine trust each other to do their part in preparation for the Last Battle in the books.

AND in case of the last two points, do they remind you of anyone? Someone who was in direct opposition to Siuan and the choices she made? They literally made her Elaida. Elaida wanted to trap Rand and control him. Elaida wanted to have Sisters swear a personal oath to her. What is the point of this?

An adaptation can make changes, of course, but you have to weigh the changes you make in plot and characterization and choose carefully. Characterization is especially delicate. People can tolerate and enjoy the same characters being put in different situations (see AU fanfictions) but when you change who the character is at their core, people get rightfully frustrated that you put the name of their beloved character on a different person (see reactions to OOC).

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it's siuan using the fourth oath to compel moiraine, out of all things, that's getting me. even over the fact that books make it clear that mind control of that kind of is akin to assualt and siuan very specifically speaks out against aes sedai ever doing that but EVEN OVER THAT

the one thing siuan feels most passionately about is the three oaths, she makes one of the most passionate and moving speeches in the books about how it is the three oaths that make Aes Sedai Aes Sedai, and not just a random group of channelers. in that passionate speech, siuan shows why elaida asking for a fourth oath of personal loyalty was utterly against everything the Tower should stand for. in that speech, siuan shows why she deserved the mettle of Amyrlin Seat, at least for a time, and why elaida didn't.

so of course, the show has the siuan make use of a fourth use of personal loyalty. of course they had her do the the one thing that she'd never have done, the one thing that differentiated her from elaida. of course.

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i won't make a fuss about how they couldn't even be bothered to fix the missing tattoos in post after everyone pointed them out in that trailer, i won't-

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