"they made moiraine too ruthless" "moiraine should be nicer to rand" did you people actually read the books or....?
still pretty fucked that the wot team took core character establishing scenes/themes from a protagonist they cast as a woman of colour and gave them wholesale to a protagonist and antagonist they cast as white women
just off the top of my head because I don't have the energy to dig back into the books again
show: Liandrin's 'swords are useless' scene
excerpts from Siuan's 'swords are useless' scene (I'm not gonna screenshot the entire scene but it's fairly beat for beat what they gave Liandrin), TGH ch 18:
show: Moiraine reacts to Verin knowing more than she should during an infodump
excerpt from Moiraine and Siuan reacting to Verin knowing more than she should during an infodump, TGH ch7:
show: Liandrin confining Mat in the wake of his healing
excerpt from Siuan confining Mat in the wake of his healing, TDR ch 20:
show: Nynaeve gets no welcome beyond the two other Wondergirls post-Accepted test
excerpt from Siuan welcoming Nynaeve on her return from the arches, TGH ch 23:
show: Nynaeve's the fastest to be raised to Accepted since Cadsuane
books: Siuan/Moiraine/Elaida are the fastest ever through Novice training until Nynaeve
show: Moiraine manipulates Logain in order to use him as a means to an end
excerpt of Siuan manipulating Logain in order to use him as a means to an end, TSR ch 47:
but the real big kick in the teeth?
show: Moiraine copes with her loss of power and having to work from a place of weakness after (what she perceives as) being stilled
books: Siuan spends the back half of the series coping with her loss of power and working from a place of weakness after actually being stilled
as of 2x04 there's one (1) TGH Siuan scene remaining that hasn't been re-assigned or covered in s1 (the convo with Rand), and her remaining TDR scenes are made irrelevant by her not being in the Tower with the Wondergirls, which is a WHOLE other thing, given how important it is for future plotlines for her to establish a relationship with them
still pretty fucked that the wot team took core character establishing scenes/themes from a protagonist they cast as a woman of colour and gave them wholesale to a protagonist and antagonist they cast as white women
I can't recall if we've had a vandene and/or adeleas casting leak but that water bucket moiraine is serving ch22 research sabbatical vibes for me (chanting under my breath: draghkar attack draghkar attack draghkar attack)
calling it now, New Spring chapter 12 cold open for the Cairhien ep, featuring:
- the Ajah-provided first set of dresses
- Moiraine loose-hair-don't-care era to contrast how contained she is upon her return to the capital
- Siuan stepping on the road to spymaster and Daes Dae'mar dominance (making it clear she learned none of her subtlety from Moiraine, foreshadowing her role in Egwene's Tower)
- reveal that "lady from a fallen house" actually meant "earmarked for the throne" (bonus points for a Carewin name drop) and establishing exactly how the Damodred line contributed to the current state of Cairhien
- underlining just how inevitable it was that they'd end up so thoroughly tangled up in the pattern
- and of course, the kiss
“Her uncle had died, and she had ascended the dais in his stead, a crown placed upon her head. Once, the nobility had tried to revolt. Once, Lord Galldrian of House Riatin had mustered enough support to march on the capital. Once, she had put whole towns to the sword. Once, she had lined the streets of the capital with the heads of traitors — one for every corner, for every street lamp. Once, she had stalked through Cairhien with saidar on her lips and blood soaked up the hems of her dress. Once, she had confiscated estates all across the countryside, throttling the flow of coin into those Houses who had forgotten the meaning of loyalty, who had forgotten their place, letting them die the slow death of obscurity and ruin.
Now, they are afraid to speak her name. Now, the Sun Throne is secure beyond all measure. Now, her rule is absolute.”
-Sun Queen Moiraine Damodred from ‘kept impulse dormant"
calling it now, New Spring chapter 12 cold open for the Cairhien ep, featuring:
- the Ajah-provided first set of dresses
- Moiraine loose-hair-don't-care era to contrast how contained she is upon her return to the capital
- Siuan stepping on the road to spymaster and Daes Dae'mar dominance (making it clear she learned none of her subtlety from Moiraine, foreshadowing her role in Egwene's Tower)
- reveal that "lady from a fallen house" actually meant "earmarked for the throne" (bonus points for a Carewin name drop) and establishing exactly how the Damodred line contributed to the current state of Cairhien
- underlining just how inevitable it was that they'd end up so thoroughly tangled up in the pattern
- and of course, the kiss
every so often I remember it's canon that moiraine would have fucked rand if she thought it would further her cause and then i have to stare at a wall for a solid hour until i'm normal again
Moiraine infodumping about Manetheren at the worst possible times (literally surrounded by a mob / on the verge of death) my most beloved. Truly THE character
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she's just like me for real
the Cunt she Serves
you ever think about how in The Dragon Reborn Perrin and Loial have to go fishing and they suck at it and then Moiraine shows up and flexes her fish catching skills and she is actually laughing out loud when she catches them and she is having such a good time and she's teasing the boys ??? bc i do
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+ bonus bc i couldn’t help myself
The Wheel of Time 1x02 / 1x08
The TAGS ok and I’m supposed to believe she would just. Give this all up for THOM? THOM!?! I have to laugh
MOIRAINE DAMODRED | THE WHEEL OF TIME
“i’ve regained enough strength. let me share the burden.”
“that’s moiraine for you. selfless to a fault.”
moiraine x siuan + raised (big fan btw. love ur writing) :)
love u smo 🥰
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The sounds of celebration ring through the city. In her bedchamber a few floors up the Tower, the Watcher of the Seals, the Flame of Tar Valon, the Amyrlin Seat flops facedown on the bed with an unceremonious groan. The festivities will continue for the remainder of the month, but Siuan has not had the time, the energy, nor the inclination to partake.
"Mother–" Moiraine begins from beside her, and Siuan can feel the shit-eating grin plastered on her face as surely as she can feel her own heart thudding in chest.
"Don't you start," she grumbles, whacking blindly at whatever part of Moiraine lies nearest. "Light, it's bad enough that Sheriam spends half our conversations mid-curtsy.”
“You poor thing, however do you survive?”
Siuan drags a pillow over her head and groans again, louder and more prolonged. "Hello to you too. Have you come back to do anything other than mock me and steal another angreal?"
siuaraine & murder
"Marith–"
"Hers was a natural death," Siuan interrupts before the anxieties that prickle through Moiraine can take root. "A fact in which we are allowed to take comfort," she continues in response to the maelstrom of emotion that floods down the bond. It's painfully familiar, the warring of grief with relief, interrupted only by swift dagger thrusts of self-loathing. All too reminiscent of those days bookending Tamra's funeral. She reaches up to cradle Moiraine's jaw, swiping the pad of her thumb across Moiraine's lower lip. "So none of that."
"I was not–" Moiraine begins, but if the unfinished statement alone weren't enough to call out an aborted lie then her disgruntled expression would do.