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Poking fun at risks of being a half-naked Strong Warrior Woman. Home of the Female Armor Bingo card
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dazzlerazz

Your first mistake in art is thinking you draw men and women inherently differently

I'm serious, this is genuinely not a joke. There's no wrong way to do art but you do make a mistake when you think that you draw men and women differently without any overlap or gray area, like they're two opposites and that's how they'll always be FOREVER. Treating two genders as vastly different is absolutely the incorrect way to think about things and considering how anatomy is one of the first things you practice when you start drawing human or human adjacent characters, it becomes harder and harder to unlearn as time goes on

When learning to draw, you need to understand that there's more body types for ALL genders than just "flat as a board with no hips" and "slightly thinner waist with larger chest"

There's more ways to look than androgyny you fucks

The continued comments saying "I draw both of them with big tits" or "I draw both of them as cute" or "I draw both of them the exact same" are literally missing part of my goddamn point here. I'm not saying you draw every character you ever draw exactly the same, I'm saying that when you draw characters differently based on their gender is where you're messing up

You're all also forgetting about, ya know. FAT PEOPLE. AND I AM A FAT PERSON. That one stings with disgust as well as disappointment on a lot of you. Do better.

You should be drawing characters differently, with different body shapes, with different hair colors, from different places around the world. But what you SHOULDN'T do is draw them differently strictly based on their gender and how you perceive a gendered body to be.

There is more ways to look than androgyny. There is more ways to draw than exactly the same.

OP's original point refers to how suspicious dimorphism in character design, as well as (tangentially) all the bullshit excuses for double standards in costumes, are born.

It's a serious and good art advice: Do NOT get caught up in bio-essentialism when designing characters of different sexes and/or genders, and NEVER take pointers on what features read as masculine vs feminine as gospel or as unbreakable rules, because neither life nor art works that way! And yes, making everyone uniformly androgynous isn't the answer either. Genuine diversity, as always, is the key to avoiding both the Sameface/Samebody Syndrome as well as the obsessively binary thinking about how people look.

~Ozzie

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tlkntk

Source: Shamu Azizam, @muzizmu (model), @hausofshadows___ (photographer) on IG.

Not only is this dude ultra-empowered, his armor actually includes A TON more historically-accurate elements than an average armor bikini.

Pauldron, greaves and codpiece are all legit armor pieces, after all. Only the lack of padding (or rest of the armor) isn't 👀

~Ozzie

Warning: OP's blog is marked "mature" for a very good reason. Reader discretion advised.

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Fantasy Classes series by Forrest Imel: Warrior, Warlock, Priest, Paladin, Druid, Mage, Ranger, Thief

*slams fist on table* THIS IS THE SORT OF GENDER EQUAL CHARACTER DESIGN I LIKE TO SEE.

We posted the warlocks before, but the entire set is an amazing example of equitable character and costume design!

And the artist is on Tumblr! @forrestimel

~Ozzie

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My redesign hot take is that if you’re aiming to “desexualize” a female character, don’t make her boobs smaller. You’re implying a lot here.

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emeraldburn

Instead of shrinking her boobs, try:

  • Changing her posture to something normal people do (bonus points for slouching/rounded shoulders, a common posture for tall and/or big chested women)
  • Making sure her outfit is appropriate for the situation (showing skin is not inherently sexualizing, lingerie armor or half-naked-in-the-snow probably is)
  • Making her torso/waist thicker, maybe even enough that all her organs would reasonably fit!

There are probably lots more options too! I’m not an artist! Just a person with a big chest and back pain!

Important points all around!

One crucial addition: do know the difference between shrinking the boobs as part of the anatomy and containing the boobs within chest wear, like a layered armor or a sports bra (a.k.a. don't be like the dudebros who cried about Tifa getting a "breast reduction" via sports bra in FF7 remake).

~Ozzie

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Baldur's Gate 3 (Part 2 - Minthara)

Okay, I covered the stuff in Baldur's Gate 3 is mixed and complicated. Let's talk about an objectively well executed character and visually designed - Minthara.

From a general writing perspective, she's exactly what I mean when I say it's not enough to support, women's rights - we need to support their wrongs. She is complicated, ruthless and villainous in a way we rarely get to see female characters - and every aspect of her design supports and conveys it.

Spoilers below the cut.

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So apparently Zak Snyder, not yet content with the violence he has already done to the media of film, has an animated movie coming out on Netflix in September, "Twilight of the Gods".

Based on what I can find, this lady appears to be Sigrid, and she is:

  1. A child of the giants (hence the small stature I suppose?); and
  2. On an epic quest for revenge; and
  3. Various vikings and Thor are in it.

Now obviously point #1 indicates this is not anything seeking historical accuracy so I will waive my usual "why she have a woad tattoo" query, grudgingly, and instead ask where did get bike shorts, and knee high socks? What is this outfit!?

And why does she look much more scary and badass when she's NOT on a battlefield with a sword and shield?

I mean, you'd think if there was one time she'd want to actually make sure she looks protected and intimidated - it'd be the battlefield right? Particularly since she clearly kicks ass in that fight against men two to four times her size.

Also who sold her those bike shorts? Is that the real plot?

-wincenworks

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Baldur's Gate 3 (Part 1 - Introduction)

It's a great time to be an old school Dungeons & Dragons player, you get to smugly observe millions of people realizing the game is good actually... or at least that the game can facilitate heart touching romances with imaginary, terrible people.

(To be clear, I'm not judging you - these two are, but I'm not)

As one of the biggest AAA games of 2023, it's unsurprising that it's big and complicated - and there's a lot that can be talked about with many aspects of it - including female armor and costumes. Indeed, there's already a lot of commentary on it and community activity, from the confusing, to the life affirming.

And of course, both Dungeons & Dragons and Larian Studios have histories that we've touched on before - and I can confidently say it represents a huge improvement in quality, style and attitudes. Plus sometimes their advertising is just gay.

There's good, there's bad, there's inspired and there's missed opportunities - so it'd be impossible to sum it all up in one post.

Also, now it's finished... I can feel safe commenting on it and not being told "that's changing next week" - that's the excuse I'm using for being so late to the party on this one.

It'll also be impossible to avoid talking about it without some spoilers. So I'll try to cover as much as possible spoiler-free, then put spoilers below a read-more break.

-wincenworks

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Discussion of the Star Wars property has, once again, been pretty rancid lately. Shocking news I know.

Unsurprisingly it's largely because of a bunch of people who will tell you're they're definitely not racist but clearly are losing their minds over a black woman having a light saber.

So lets cast our minds back to simpler times, when people understood that what we really wanted to see was a very sexy Leia and Han costume swap. Bless America Young and Dove Meir for providing this to us.

Just look at all that empowerment.

-wincenworks

Source: advocate.com
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leggomywaffle submitted:

Saw this cover from a post by my local comic store. This comes out on May 6th and has the description: “featuring Vampirella, Dejah Thoris, Red Sonja, Kato, Jungle Girl, and many, many more! Villains and heroes from a dozen worlds and eras face off against a legendary evil that threatens all their homelands.”
Funny how not a single woman from this various eras and worlds has ever considered wearing more than lingerie into battle. The one ladies sword has more metal than her entire set of metal “armor”!
Combined, these women almost fulfill the entire bingo card! Wow!

I was really hoping that this cover would not summarize the content of the book, which is the combining of many great heroines from the Golden Age of comics - but sadly the contents of the book do seem to send a clear message from Dynamite Entertainment: Women are only worth putting in comics if they visually coded as sex objects first:

Nostalgia has a massive influence on comics, largely because only a few creative people are involved in making them (compared with video games and movies) and most of them are specialist skill sets. This combined with general risk aversion, means that sadly none of the “big” titles are prone to challenging their old conventions. 

This is particularly disappointing for Dynamite since the company only started in 2005 - but has huge gallery of golden age characters they purchased but have continued to make them generic copies of what made them so unsuccessful they were up for sale.

I mean you want to know how generic this cover is? Let’s compare it to another heroine based book J Scott Campbell was recruited to do the cover for:

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So, while I want to be really excited about having a big story that is a lot of Golden Age heroines getting together, it’s really hard to do that when the art is basically reduces them all down to the same Barbie dolls with the same “How do we dodge the censors?” costume design ideas.

I love nostalgia as much as the next comic book fan - but at some point we have to ask what is the point of continuing the art if we don’t really advance it? And what is the point of doing a girl power comic if the introduction to it could be used as a textbook example of male gaze in comics?

- wincenworks

More on comic books | More on Red Sonja | more on J. Scott Campbell

Just in case anyone still thought J. Scott Campbell somehow was a skilled artist rather than a hack who never gets out of his extremely narrow, male-gazey comfort zone... No, the above covers were not a coincidence. I just stumbled upon another Generic Melted Barbies Posing Group Shot of his by chance:

I so totally can tell how those three dominatrix-looking ladies are different from one another... or even from ladies from the last two covers... I mean, one is red, one pale blue and one has the rebel haircut! So unique! /s 🙃

He just keeps drawing the same shit over and over and publishers seem happy enough with continuing the partnership. And we really could keep going...

Dear gods, those poses never get any less awkward either...

~Ozzie

PS: Another reason for this celebratory throwback is this post no longer being hidden by Tumblr's weird anti-porn algorithm (we appealed it). We'll see if it sticks with more images!

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mcnostril

A warrrior with abundant osteoptimism and one more skeleptical re: bone toughness.

There are two kinds of characters...

Once again @mcnostril takes a much funnier spin on explaining skimpy armor than any apologist fanboy or self-righteous artist does with their thermian arguments and such.

~Ozzie

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there is a huge difference between criticizing an institution and criticizing individual behavior. i can criticize the makeup industry without criticizing the 14 year old girl who uses concealer because she’s self-conscious about her acne; i can criticize the plastic surgery industry without vilifying the woman who decided to get a nose job after two decades of pointed comments and bullying. it is intellectually dishonest to respond to an institutional criticism as if it were a personal attack; on the flip side, it is cruel and unnecessary to leverage personal attacks in the name of institutional criticism

if i see one (1) more person respond to a perfectly reasonable beauty-industry-critical sentiment with “but i personally enjoy eyeshadow. why are you attacking people who like eyeshadow :(” or “exactly, all women who wear makeup are miserable and brainwashed” i am going to climb a tree and bite the top of it

no it absolutely is not

It really applies to pop media as well. We get occasional "but I really like playing as a sexy female warrior" responses to our content, and they're just missing forest for the trees.

Liking individual examples or having a personal preference towards part of a bigger problematic trend doesn't justify the trend as a whole. You're allowed to (and even should) enjoy something while being critical of what tropes it contributes to on a bigger scale.

You're not a bad person for liking it, of course, as long as you're cognizant of its implications. It also helps to note whether the problematic trope is played straight or heightened in some way, via satire, stylization or deconstruction.

Taking a statement like "bikini armor is sexist" as a personal attack, because you're, say, a World of Warcraft megafan, says a lot more about you than about the person who made the statement.

~Ozzie

PS: Just as the OP, we denounce this post being appropriated by radfems, SWEFRs, TERFs and similar scum*. If you're one of them and see this reblog, keep scrolling.

PPS: Tumblr fucked up and posted this early on Friday when it was still a draft and I was showing it for a friend to beta-read. Re-posting it on Saturday.

*glossary for uninitiated under the cut

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eschergirls

Um, Valiant Force girls are doing that optical illusion pose torso forward, legs backwards pose again.  Maybe they’re taught this at knight school.

This one is at least not as confusing as Mulan’s, it just looks like she has her legs on backwards.

(Game art of Victoria Bloodknight from Valiant Force, XII Braves, submitted by anonymous)

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dr-teatime

Im not great at anatomy either tbh but i was overcome with the urge to edit her

Nice edit! I noticed you fixed her armor a bit too. The pose definitely makes a lot more sense than the original where she literally looks like she put her legs on backwards. Also the edit kinda highlights how tiny her torso is despite how armored it is.

Some art is nearly beyond redemption, some needs just a few edits and some, like this, would require extensive fixes to address ALL of its anatomy and costuming problems. @dr-teatime focused on the couple most crucial edits and that already highlighted how there's still hope for this design, and even the pose... Just let the artist use some anatomy reference (no, lingerie catalogue doesn't really count) next time.

~Ozzie

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Tidy Up Tuesday #101

Unfortunately while I did do some searching etc, at the time I posted the Friday sexy male armor post I was not aware that Terese Neilsen was exposed as a TERF, racist and general reactionary terrible person back in 2019 - which is why Wizards of the Coast stopped working with her. (Those Terese very much still tries to associate herself with Magic the Gathering).

After discovering this I applied an edit to the post, and looked into her current goings on - I don't think a redemption arc is coming any time soon. Thank you to @araglar for the notification.

Female Armor Bingo

For those that weren't aware, the bingo is not intended as a highly targeted tool for real analysis, but rather a sort of fun conversation starter and general indicator.

As we've posted before, it's not necessary for it to be tailored for any given item - or any given bingo to be 100% accurate (particularly given there are always some areas that are up for debate). It's just for illustrative purposes.

And honestly one of the saddest things about that is that in all the years we've been doing this - there hasn't been much innovation or need to adapt it to the times.

I'm beginning to think that part of the reason brodudes are mad all the time is they know that "woke" perverts are way more fun and creative than they will ever be.

-wincenworks

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bbybluemochi
“If i were to go away, would you follow me 'till the end?”

[Another illustration for my lesbian fairytale project <3]

I am always a sucker for plate armor that is designed to both look more extra than reality allows, but includes features of real practical design like besagews (little shields for your armpits... though also sometimes with other applications).

Simply beautiful.

-wincenworks

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So, naturally we had to, now the game is actually out, bingo the CENSORED outfit in Stellar Blade. Credit to HarryNinetyFour for showing all seventy-four outfits, and Kotaku for this article where they propose that Eve is at her sexiest when she's got more on.

Okay... maybe not that but...

Seriously, if you're playing to fap - this game has you covered. But it also has a few really interesting, covering outfits that seem to reflect fantasies of fashion and comfort.

The only thing that's really not present is any sort of actual military like BDUs or combat jumpsuits. That's kinda weird, even Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain let you put BDUs on Quiet.

And that bit is weird is, based on what I've seen people who've been playing the game saying - there is really a story about her being a soldier and fighting for a cause there. But you'd never know that based on the ongoing outrage.

The outrage is weird and sad

So as you can probably guess, the continuing riot of "censorship" here is pretty absurd. It's got to the point where they even bullied the Stellar Blade's X/Twitter account to un-repost the Kotaku article that praises the game.

But here's the thing, in all the years I've had to deal with brodudes doing this kind of nonsense in various online platforms etc, I have never seen one that is happy.

YouTuber Moon Channel did a two part (1, 2) series on a different drama in South Korea involving a Gacha game that dared not to be pointlessly horny, but here's the general take away.

English speaking brodudes in this situation are imagining that Stellar Blade is some sort of iconic work coming from the anti-woke wonderland where everyone is happy. The reality is:

  • South Korea has a deeply hierarchical society which essentially tells young people they are to obey and not to speak up
  • The economy and nepotism is such that unless you are born into a rich family, your employment prospects are downright depressing
  • Many young men in South Korea develop a lot of resentment toward women primarily because they are told that in order to enter a (heterosexual) relationship they will need to demonstrate they have the ability to be a great provider, and then are denied those opportunities by the economy and nepotism
  • On top of all this, the government takes a "we know whats best for you" approach to the extent that not only is porn banned but you will be expected to supply your identity information if you want to look up basic sexual educational materials

They would find it to be an absolute nightmare realm.

The reality is that in the "woke" world that brodudes fear, we'd probably see a lot more eroticism in art, including games, and it'd be of the more focused, sincere variety rather than that directed by creepy marketing guy.

All we really need to do is accept each other as people, appreciate each other's humanity and boundaries. Then we can both enjoy a sexy paradise, but also unite and deal with the assholes who keep oppressing us economically and socially.

Wouldn't that be nice?

-wincenworks

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So because I'm a huge nerd I was looking through archives of Dragon Magazine and I happened to come across the amazing gentleman at the top, cover art for issue #294 by Terese Neilsen.

I'm happy to report that while the various cheesecake pinups in other adds have fallen into obscurity, 17 years later, Wizards of the Coast are still using this art for D&D related matters.

That my friends, is the power of true empowerment.

-wincenworks

Source: tnielsen.com
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An excerpt from the Dudebro Dictionary

Creative Freedom - reason gratuitous female boobs and butts must be preserved at all costs in That Thing That I Like

Censorship - reason gratuitous female boobs and butts are not featured in That Thing That I Like 

~Ozzie

Dudebro Dictionary now supplemented by @yanavaseva [x] and @hardboiled-w [x]!

Self-Censorship - entertaining the idea of adding gratuitous female boobs and butts but ultimately deciding not to because you just got a better idea. 

Submitting to Harassment - Starting to add gratuitous female boobs and butts but, upon reading arguments against it in discussion topics on forums and message boards, deciding that you see where they’re coming from and you hadn’t thought of that before, so you decide to tone the boobs down a notch with a minor edit that in some cases is only noticeable in side by side comparisons. 

Artist’s Wishes - This tiddy must be preserved in all its glory despite the fact that the artist wished to remove the tiddy. 

~Ozzie 

We have an update! Dudebros have now provided new illustrations as what counts as significant enough change to be "censorship"... it's um... er... well let's see some YouTube thumbnails:

Somehow I doubt they're finished yet.... after all this is just one outfit out of the like... forty available in the game.

And the appropriate response to this degree of censorship is to... let me check my notes: Demand a refund from the game whose success was going to prove that people don't want "woke" games, they want tiddy, butts and sexy poses everywhere.

This is also, not the first time dudebros of the gamer sub-variety have demanded a refund because cosmetics in games added a few extra inches of cloth to a female costume. Only this time they noticed on day one... not six months later.

In fact, capital-G Gamers are so prone to this we had a comedic compilation of these kind of events... back in 2016.

This is truly a story that writes its own punchlines.

-wincenworks

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