Okay no Chicago is not a coastal city. When I moved up to the Midwest (currently in iowa) and I heard someone say "let's go to the beach" and they meant TO A LAKE I about died. The beach is Galveston, corpus Christi, Miami, etc. Beaches are where the land touches THE OCEAN. not a lake!! I will die on this hill!!!! Midwesterners just want to pretend like their states aren't boring as fuck. Be happy with your great lakes and stop calling them beaches! They're lake shores!
If you say beach and you mean to include lake shores then you're admitting your state is boring and also you're wrong bc nobody thinks "beach" and by *default* includes lake superior or wtv
You wish your beaches had this kind of view
Girl, the only Beach National Park is along Lake Michigan, Her Name? Indiana DUNES National Park and she is in the Chicagoland area!
not the point at all but portland is not a coastal city at all
Yeah but Portlanders are considered Coastal Elites so it's a Coastal City in Spirit
coastal? no. elites? absolutely
Google being wrong once again
I don't know, San Francisco seems pretty oceanic to me
if you're in a state that borders the ocean you can't call a lake a beach BUT if you're in a state with huge lakes and no oceans you can absolutely call a big enough lake shore a beach. some lake shores are very very beach like
Okay but Buffalo NY has Beaches too
As the Great Lakes are basically inland freshwater seas, they get a pass on the beach thing. Other lakes have to call their stuff lakeshores.
Which of these is Lake Michigan and Which is Lake Kentucky?
And more importantly which looks nicer to spend an afternoon?
im assuming Lake Kentucky is on the left because the trees are nicer
How the fuck did you guess that based off of the trees?
Well also Coastal Cities and Coastal Elites just means like East Coast and West Coast, that's why Portland is counted. So like the states are coastal, not necessarily the cities.
As a Portlander, none of us consider our city actually costal.
Correct, Chicago is a Coastal City and Portland is Not a Coastal City
Chicago is not a coastal city as it's not on the ocean. Coastal Cities and Coastal Elites are buzzwords to say "these places are out of touch with middle america" and by middle america they mean the midwest (which is not in the middle but is still called the midwest). They will never call the people of Charleston, SC Coastal Elites despite Charleston being on the Atlantic coast because to the people who came up with the buzzword, that's not a place for Elites because it isn't the ~Left Coast~ (aka the Pacific coast of the United States that trends more liberal in the liberal-conservative political divide) or the Northeast.
Well arbitrary until someone makes the correct observation that Chicago is on a coast and is therefore a Coastal City
Lake Michigan isn't your normal Lake
yeah ig that does look like a sea. ill agree w you
Thank you <3
Anyways if you don't consider Chicago a coastal city because the water is mostly enclosed and can only leave by river or one other entrance than by your own logic New Haven isn't a Coastal City because it is in the Long Island Sound
Either Lake Michigan counts as a Coast or the Long Island Sound Doesn't count because you can't have it both ways
And before you say it's the salt water that makes it coastal than Salt Lake City is Coastal
And that doesn't even connect to the ocean
Good thing that's not my metric (:
A Sound is part of the Ocean.
I really don't think that is relevant to the broader discussion
if Chicago is coastal Detroit is coastal, which it is. Chicago, Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland, Buffalo, and Toronto are all coastal. It’s called the “laurentian coast” named after the st. Laurence seaway.
Exactly, the Third Coast isn't the fucking Gulf, that's just part part of the Atlantic, the 3rd (and best) Coast is the Great Lakes
I mean, it's an hour drive to the coast on a good day from Portland that HAS to mean it's a coastal town, right?
And it's a 10 minute walk in Chicago, So Chicago is more coastal
I would argue that "coast" implies not only a waterfront but one that represents a significant boundary, HOWEVER, by this definition I am willing to count Chicago as coastal because the lake represents not only a major body of water but also a national border. Salt Lake City is not coastal because it is on the border of nothing except perhaps the limits of human folly.