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alyson (they/she)
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What is or isn’t a slur can be highly contextual, y'all.

“Jonny Sims bummed a fag off my ma” doesn’t contain a slur, but “What are you, some kind of fag?” does.

“Queer studies”, “the queer community” and “I’m queer”? Not a slur. Some bigot calling you a “dirty queer”? Slur.

“Be gay, do crimes” and “He’s gay” ≠ slur, but “Ew, that’s so gay” = slur.

In conclusion, stop buying into this fucking “q slur” bullshit. Queer people talking about the queer community aren’t using it as a slur any more than a gay man calling himself gay is using that term as a slur.

Looks like its time for derogatory pepperoni again

That is actually hilarious, thank you for this addition

Always reblog derogatory pepperoni

Pepperoni (derogatory)

OP’s logic doesn’t even pan out.

In the example for “Fag”, it literally changes meaning depending on how you use it (one being a cigarette and the other a slur). “Queer” has two meanings too, but that’s only if you’re using it to mean “strange”, in OP’s example for the Q-slur both examples have the same meaning (referring to the LGBT+ community), one is just being used to actively degrade someone. And the “gay” example isn’t even a slur, OP’s example is the same as someone using the insult of “you throw like a girl”. (And the alternate meaning for “gay” is happy.)

On the subject of “fag”, that one is particularly insidious since the history behind the slur is gay men being burned, like sticks, for existing. “Fag” meaning a burning stick (also, cigarettes) is adopted in its slur form to connect firewood/burning sticks to gay people burning in fire.

“Queer” is the same way (just less obviously horrific in its imagery), where the slur comes from the original usage and meaning: aberration, abomination, oddity, abnormal, gross, fucked up, weird, etc.

the braindead refusal to think for two seconds about language and the how and why behind it is running us backwards into the fucking ground.

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If you use "queer" as a term for the community, kindly remember it is still an active slur for many of us. By normalizing this word, you are not helping those of us that still endure it. In fact, you make it much, much more worse.

I know homophobes, and they are excited they now get to call us dirty little freaks to our faces. You have allied yourself with people who hate us, but you are turning a blind eye to this. You need to remember, no one will know if you're LGBT or not if you use this term, which allows for anyone to say this term. Homophobes know this. They know they can now openly call us freaks, as this word still means for many of us and others.

By calling the community the "queer community":

You are choosing to call yourself a freak.

You are choosing to let others call us freaks.

You are choosing to call others freaks.

I do not accept nor consent to being called a slur. Stop forcing this as a community label. The words you say and call yourself have meaning, please understand this. I am tired of people in my community and homophobes trying to force me to accept this slur. In my eyes, as someone who endures this as a slur, you are one and the same.

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I get very uncomfortable at how casually slurs are used in the LGBT community as well. Its not the same for any other group of people when it comes to slurs, but once it comes to so many LGBT people it seems like they can’t hate themselves enough with shit like this!

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It’s just the usual. People act weird about slurs used against them, they claim “it’s reclaimed” yet can’t explain why. They’re growing increasingly attached to harmful words. They wanna call themselves it? Fine, whatever. I didn’t think a degradation kink was that common but fine. However, this doesn’t mean they get to tell US that we have to be comfortable with that word. When someone tells you “don’t call me that”; you don’t fucking call them that. End of story. No “but”.

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Elder Scrolls Online in-game pronunciations are so wild you guys.

First of all, you have a lot of american voice-actors mispronouncing french-based names.  Lookin at you, Darien Gautier, who fellow bretons (who are supposed to be a french-leaning/based people) pronounce as “Gah-tea-err”.  Now, it might just be latin forever scarring my brain with the first syllable, but shouldn’t it be “Gow-tea-yay”? (Edit: after being reminded of french sound rules (at least canadian french), his name should be pronounced “Go-tee-ay”.)

Then you have a cavalcade of latin-based names with the imperials, which come with their own set of problems. But hey at least Liam O’Brian as Scipion Averno knows to pronounce his brother Iulius’s name as “Yoo-lee-uss”, so that was vindicating and relieving to hear.

You also run into problems when characters have names based on realworld mythological figures, like good ol’ Iachesis in summerset.  Iachesis is a simple misspelling of ancient greek Lachesis, the member of the three Fates who measured the thread of a human life.  So, my own mispronouncings aside (in my head i hear ‘lah-KEY-sis’ ), you might think the “Ia” of Iachesis would perhaps be latin-ized in pronunciation (”ya-kuh-sas”) to at least rhyme with the original name... but nope... instead we have “eye-ka-sis”, which just heckin threw me for a loop.

Speaking of altmer, ffffffffffffffffuck. Fuckin high elves in eso were created just to fuck with my english language expertise, personally. Just to fuck with MEEE, personally.

Now, despite the english language being an absolute clusterfuck, there actually are some rules you can bet your ass on, even for pronunciation.  One of those rules is words that begin as “Ce-” will just about always be pronounced with a soft C.  The c will morph into an s sound.  Think, cerulean, center, central, celery, celebrity. Stuff like that.

High elves apparently fuckin hate this and go out of their way to have a bunch of ‘Ce-’ words that smack you in the face with hard k sounds.  The Ceporah Tower becomes “kep-or-uh”, social signifier ‘cerum’ becomes “kair-um”.  Hell, I made a high elf and button-mashed my way to naming him Cellannian Tilsi, automatically translating the Ce- to an s sound, but APPARENTLY according high elf rules this means his name is actually “Kell-on-ee-en”.  High elves frustrate me, is what I’m saying.

tl:dr; english is a fucky flexible language for pronunciations, i am a canadian english major/classics-leaning snob about it, and the most classically ‘elven’ elves in the game were thought into existence just to fuck with me personally.

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