I can’t believe that even after Sarah herself stepped on your dumbass theory of Gwyn being a child and threw it to the trash when she said she’s a full grown up adult, some of y’all are still going at it and for what? To invalidate the ship you hate and to try keep making people feel bad for liking Gwynriel? Let us ship whoever tf we want without the need of shaming us. At this point it’s just so embarrassing for you to say the least.
I’m convinced the ones who latch onto the “he wouldn’t go so far as to call Gwyn a friend, but...” quote don’t actually read books.
“I don’t like them, but...” and then they do end up liking them
“We hate each other, but...” and then they end up liking each other, or even falling in love
It’s a really common trope, usually used for foreshadowing. That’s why I absolutely loathe the “lacking reading comprehension” argument. You sound like you’ve never even picked up a book when you say it, worry about that.
Gwyn: Is a survivor who has seen the darkest parts of life and who is still hopeful and wants to believe that people are good and finds love and friendship with Nesta and Emerie. Very lightly romantically coded with Azriel.
Them: Gwyn threatens our 50 Shades of Fae cottage core ship
Them: Gwyn must be a light singer. She’s being manipulated by Koschei. Wait, she’s an actual child and isn’t mature. Wait, Azriel only sees her as a little sister and the glow she gives him is brotherly. Wait, maybe she’s a misdirect. W A I T
no one is telling you not to ship what you want so maybe stop trying to shame us into stop shipping what we want. like if your ship is so fucking awesome and endgame is upon you why the fuck do you care if we like a sinking ship? how does it affect you? like just fuck off please.
I wonder how is it that the acotar fandom forgets that Lucien is also a SA survivor and one of the very few biracial characters in the series and yet they keep calling him awful slurs and invalidating his trauma.
**not sure if i’m blocked, but my post seems to have disappeared so i figured i would post again about this post from @offtorivendell about gwyn’s age being problematic when shipping gwynriel:
i’m trying very hard to understand the intent behind this. because reading this whole thing, saying that gwyn is basically a young teen in fae years, sounds like an insinuation that anyone who ships her with az is ok with child abuse/pedophilia. i get you said this take is not to be hurtful and you would be respectful, but this is how it sounds.
let’s say for arguments sake this was a genuine concern when reading. that you are just a concerned gwyn fan who doesn’t want her to be in a compromising relationship. i’ll humor this post as best as i can.
the fact that she talked about how she was not able to participate in the great rite, not because of her age, but because of her location - being remote - leads me to believe she’s old enough to be in a sexual relationship with a fae male. considering the great rite doesn’t pair people up based on their age bracket and it’s just a fun orgy for the fae one can assume she could have paired up with a 20 year old fae, an 80 year old, a 578 year old… so claiming she’s too young for this doesn’t make sense. next.
alis and her nephews are urisks. they are not high fae or river nymphs. they age at a significantly slower rate. that alis quote was pointing out how difficult it is for her species and the high fae to reproduce. it was pointing out why both covet their young. the reason tarquin is considered a young high lord is he’s the youngest one and also he hasn’t had a chance to rule since he was crowned UtM. that’s why they talk about him being idealistic, he’s not used to court politics - which he admits when with feyre. he doesn’t have the cynicism the others have due to his age and time ruling. next.
rhys himself was 28 years of age when the war started 500 years ago. that means cassian, azriel, and mor were all around the same age. they were old enough to fight and have sex. cassian and mor had sex with each other, but no one claims they were too young to be having sex. cassian was in a relationship with a valkyrie, a seasoned warrior, during the war. i haven’t seen anyone write a post about how cassian was a victim of statutory rape. 28 is not a child in their world. next.
if we are putting this creepy feel onto gwynriel, that gwyn is too young for azriel, then we most definitely need to put that title onto feysand, nessian, elriel, elucien, feylin….literally every ship in this universe aside from elain x graysen and feyre x isaac hale (her mortal barn boy in case anyone forgot). having been mortal at one time does not exclude them from the “he’s too old for her” title. they’re all younger than gwyn. wow, what pervs. next.
azriel saved gwyn so there’s a power dynamic… ok so guess that means elriel is out. feysand too since feyre saved all of prythian. guess she’ll have to go to the continent for some lovin’. cassian, sorry nesta saved you so now she holds too much power over you. do you see how bad that argument is? saving someone does not disrupt the power dynamic. especially when these characters are equals. gwyn did not train for months and complete the blood rite not to be considered an equal to azriel. next.
gwyn sounds younger than everyone… ok, but she’s not. she grew up sheltered. her only sexual experience was violent. that’s why she doesn’t read smut as easily as emerie or nesta. reading adventure books does not make her a child. it speaks to her desire to be her own hero, to be a warrior, which she now is. and sorry, but truth teller is a pretentious af name. silver majesty >>> truth teller any day lol. as for the friendship bracelets, sure that was very “tweens at summer camp” moment, but it was to signify that gwyn has found a sisterhood with nesta and emerie. if we’re gonna use this as evidence that gwyn is too young then we can also use nesta making an imaginary friend real (the house) and nesta asking said imaginary friend to make a miniature pegasus. the entire slumber party scene had the tween girl feel to it, but you’re not claiming nesta or emerie as childish…
i don’t care what people ship. you want to ship elain and koschei go for it. you want a thrupple with mor, nesta, and the bone carver fucking have fun! i just don’t think it’s appropriate to make a post to talk about a ship that implies anyone shipping it would be supporting pedophilia. because this is essentially what you are saying. that gwyn is technically a teen in fae years so shipping her with az is problematic. i will give you the benefit of the doubt and say you did not mean to imply this, but it’s a bad take. let people ship what they want in peace.
TW// rape, pedophilia
THIS!!!! What does that make Elain then?? Since she’s much younger than Gwyn?? E*riels are getting quite creative with their theories I must admit. That much to the point of contradicting themselves. With every theory they release it gets more and more clear the lack of reading comprehension and how biased their analysis and opinions are when they build up their arguments based on a ship perspective. It’s clear y’all don’t care about Gwyn when y’all keep trying to find ways to invalidate her trauma and her person for the sake of a man’s possible romance with another girl just because y’all feel insecure about it. I’m sick of this.