Plus a... discussion I had with someone about this:
Them: Yes and no. I understand but it's like talking to a lawyer. Some places are confidential. If you don't have that, the person may not say anything in the first place. If they've told you confidentially, you can then try and persaude them to do the right thing.
Me: That's a nice sentiment, but lawyers (and psychologists) still have to report crimes or intention to commit crimes, especially ones that endanger other people, ESPECIALLY especially when it's children. So... fuck religious confessional confidentiality. If children's lives and health are at risk ESPECIALLY fuck religious confidentiality
Them: But what if that person then doesn't say anything, never goes for help to anyone because there's nowhere they can go to ask what they should do? If they go to a priest it's likely because they want help in not doing it.
Me: There is literally no scenario where you're going to convince me a Priest should ignore a confession of child abuse for the peace of mind of an abuser
Them: It's not for the peace of mind of the abuser. It's about, whether that abuser goes for help vs doesn't. Either way the information is not reported.
Me: It is ENTIRELY for the peace of mind of the abusers, they get to know they can go to this place, tell someone about their sick behaviour and NOT GET REPORTED. They know that, they abuse it. It says in the article itself that abusers have routinely confessed and gone on to abuse again and confess again. Catholic confession gives them the insane and sick idea that if they confess and repent they can be forgiven. The simple fact that abusers go to their Priests should make it MANDATORY for the Priests to alert the authorities, much like teachers have to when we are alerted of abuse or possibility of abuse. Just because you think some hypothetical abuser may perhaps maybe go on to seek help after a confession is in no way shape or form a justification for Priests keeping silent when they discover abuse.
Them: But sometimes when someone is mentally ill or sick, if there's someone they can go to, that help can point them the right way. To confess, to go to the police, to start to stop it. With nowhere to go, the problem isn't solved, it just stays silent. That doesn't make the children better off. It may even make things worse. It's not the final solution. But it can be a first step.
Me: Yeah, hello, it's 2017, Priests have had hundreds of years to try the 'encourage them to get help' thing, and it HASN'T WORKED. Like I said, these people go to Priests to confess, get absolved, then go and do it again. And again. You seem to be labouring under the misapprehension that people actually go to confession seeking help, when it's actually about being absolved of their sins, so they can stop feeling guilty. This whole line of thinking is especially useless when we know that a rather hefty percentage of the Priests themselves are in fact abusers and have been involved in covering up their own and other people within the Church's abuse.
Them: Heh, I think we must agree to disagree.
Me: Right. Because I think someone who is told 'I'm sexually abusing my child' should go and tell the authorities, rather than simply 'encouraging them to get help' while the abuser continues to abuse the child. In your scenario, the only ones that get hurt are the children/victims. The Priests get to sit back and congratulate themselves for 'helping', the abusers get to continue their abuse free of guilt or arrest, the children get to... what...? Oh yeah... continue to be abused or continue to suffer in silence without getting the help THEY need because nobody knows about it, because the Priests won't go and tell anyone. But sure, let's agree to disagree.
Good lord I hate people sometimes. ‘Heh’ ... fucking what.