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More on Dick Cheney's defense of torture

But this was before he went on the Sunday shows and took it even further. He was pressed on what torture's definition is, and what, if anything he rejects. This summary from the Atlantic covers it all:
Once 9/11 happened, Dick Cheney ceased to believe that the CIA should be subject to the U.S. Constitution, statutes passed by Congress, international treaties, or moral prohibitions against torture. Those standards would be cast aside. In their place, moral relativism would reign. Any action undertaken by the United States would be subject to this test: Is it morally equivalent to what al-Qaeda did on 9/11? Is it as bad as murdering roughly 3,000 innocent people? If not, then no one should criticize it, let alone investigate, charge and prosecute the CIA. Did a prisoner freeze to death? Were others anally raped? Well, what if they were?
If it cannot be compared with 9/11, if it is not morally equivalent, then it should not be verboten.
That is the moral standard Cheney is unabashedly invoking on national television. He doesn't want the United States to honor norms against torture. He doesn't want us to abide by the Ten Commandments, or to live up to the values in the Declaration of Independence, or to be restrained by the text of the Constitution. Instead, Cheney would have us take al-Qaeda as our moral and legal measuring stick. Did America torture dozens of innocents? So what. 9/11 was worse.

Read the whole thing. It's horrifying.

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Dick Cheney, Asshole of the Day for December 11, 2014

The world reacted with horror. The New York Times called the Senate report on CIA torture "a portrait of depravity.

John McCain said: "The truth is sometimes a hard pill to swallow. It sometimes causes us difficulties at home and abroad. It is sometimes used by our enemies in attempts to hurt us. But the American people are entitled to it, nonetheless."

Dick Cheney, of course, has a different take, telling Fox News' Bret Baier in a Wednesday interview: "The report's full of crap."  Crap, of course, is too mild a word for what the report contains. As Vox.com says: "listing every horrifying detail in the Senate Intelligence Committee's summary report on the CIA's torture program would be impossible." They give 16 of the worst details here.

The Daily Edge doesn't often agree with John McCain but he's right when he says the Bush-Cheney torture policies "stained our national honor, did much harm and little good.

As Slate points out, "there's no way Bush and Cheney didn't know what we were doing." And what we were doing included the same "war crimes" for which America hung Japanese soldiers after World War II.

For promoting and supporting these torture policies, and for still emphatically and unapologetically defending them--despite the fact they didn't work!!--Dick Cheney is for the 5th time, Asshole of the Day.

See his previous wins here.

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Liz Cheney, Asshole of the Day for August 5, 2014

It is also a fact that torture doesn't work. The Senate report says it doesn't work, and John McCain who was tortured during the Vietnam War also says it doesn't work.

"This president is an utter disgrace. He’s got a situation where, as your last two reports showed, you’ve got crises erupting around the world. And he is expending more time, more energy, more passion, more aggressive activity in targeting and going after patriots, heroes, CIA officers and others who kept is safe after 9/11," Cheney said on Fox News' Hannity.
"He’s lying about what they did, he’s slandering them, he went to Cairo and did it in 2009. Today he did it from the podium of the Oval Office. It’s a disgrace. It’s despicable," Cheney continued.

She says two things here: The first is that Obama shouldn't be examining or discussing our history of torture because the world isn't safe. The second is her claim that Obama is lying and slandering by claiming the US tortured people. On the second she is demonstrably wrong-- the report proves we tortured.

But it's her first assertion that is more novel and worth examining. There's "crises erupting around the world", and this should keep Obama from ever investigating or talking about torture. Really. Too many things happening? Look, there will always be an excuse not to explore our own actions, but we must. It is fair to try to contest the conclusions from the investigation or decisions that result, but that doesn't mean it's legitimate to not ever have inquiries.

If this reasoning sounds familiar, it's because she's basically saying it's TOO SOON to talk about torture. I'm sure you're familiar with that argument-- it goes like this:

  1. Horrific shooting occurs
  2. It’s too soon to talk about gun control because of [insert most recent horrific shooting here].
  3. Nothing gets done
  4. Shootings keep happening since nothing gets done
  5. New shootings result in further delays in discussing or getting things done
  6. …and so on

It's become so routine that I made this chart:

And how does it apply here? Well, according to Liz Cheney, the too much is happening to talk about torture. So we never stop torturing or examine whether we should stop. And because we keep torturing, then we keep creating new enemies who hate America, in part because we torture. And those enemies attack, which means we can’t talk about torture again yet. Here's the chart:

This is why the TOO SOON argument is so offensive to me, and why every time I hear it I think they might as well be saying:

It’s too soon to talk about gun control after JFK got shot!

It’s too soon to talk about torture after 9/11!

TOO SOON.

TOO SOON.

TOO SOON.

Nope. Repeating it in ALL CAPS doesn’t help either. It’s time to talk about torture, Liz Cheney. A report has been done. We need to talk about it. American needs to own up to the fact that

  • torture doesn’t work
  • America tortured under Bush and Cheney

And Obama has made it clear that he doesn’t plan to hold anyone accountable criminally for what they did, not even Dick Cheney:

Even before I came into office, I was very clear that in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, we did some things that were wrong. We did a whole lot of things that were right, but we tortured some folks. We did some things that were contrary to our values. I understand why it happened. I think it's important when we look back to recall how afraid people were after the twin towers fell and the Pentagon had been hit and the plane in Pennsylvania had fallen and people did not know whether more attacks were imminent and there was enormous pressure on our law enforcement and our national security teams to try to deal with this. And, you know, it's important for us not to feel too sanctimonious in retrospect about the tough job that those folks had. A lot of those folks were working hard under enormous pressure and are real patriots, but having said all that, we did some things that were wrong. And that's what that report reflects.

We need to face up to what was done. The report is the first step. But Liz Cheney doesn’t want us to admit we tortured or that it doesn’t work. And for that, she is the Asshole of the Day.

It is Liz Cheney's second time as Asshole of the Day. Her previous time was for pushing to deny her own sister the same marriage rights that she herself enjoys.

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Sarah Palin, Asshole of the Day for April 28, 2014

Sarah Palin portrays herself as a straight shooter, who speaks her mind and says what she means, and damn the consequences if you're offended. But that's only part of it-- she often speaks without considering what her statements might mean, or how they might be perceived, and she doesn't care.

Case in point: Speaking at the NRA annual meeting, St. Sarah of Palin told us how things would be if she were in charge:

"C'mon! Enemies who would utterly annihilate America, they would obviously have information on plots. They carry out jihad. Oh, but you can’t offend them. Can’t make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen," Palin said on Saturday during a speech at the National Rifle Association's "Stand And Fight" rally. "Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists."
During her speech, Palin criticized the Obama administration's national security policy, which she said pokes, "our allies in the eye, calling them adversaries, instead of putting the fear of God in our enemies" according to CBS News.

There's so many things wrong with this, so let us count the ways:

#1 Her mention of "baptism" recalls the ugly history of forced baptisms during the Inquisition and in wars such as the Crusades. The history of Christianity, and of many religions, has many times when people were forced to accept baptism or be killed. To someone outside the US hearing Palin's statement, this reading will be obvious. If Palin were in charge, accept her version of Christianity or die.

Does she mean it this way? Hard to say. If she knew it might be taken this way though, she might not care.

But she fashions herself a leader and political thinker, and often opines about how the US should stand in the world, so it's fair to evaluate her statements for how they will be perceived by America's allies and enemies, and whether it helps or hurts America's standing, and the security of the countries troops stationed overseas.

That her words will come across this way shouldn't be shocking either if you remember when George W. Bush said after 9/11, "this crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take awhile." Crusade is an ugly word with an ugly history:

His use of the word "crusade," said Soheib Bensheikh, Grand Mufti of the mosque in Marseille, France, "was most unfortunate", "It recalled the barbarous and unjust military operations against the Muslim world," by Christian knights, who launched repeated attempts to capture Jerusalem over the course of several hundred years.

The US should not be involved in any crusades, and we certainly don't want our enemies or allies thinking we are, or that we want to be.

#2 She fancies herself a great Christian soldier, and berates people who don't hew to her Christian conservative ideology, but is torture what Jesus would do? Or what He would want done in His name? That sure doesn't sound like the Jesus of the New Testament.

#3 She ignores all those treaties the US has signed saying we don't torture and don't want our troops tortured. The more we violate those treaties, the more likely our enemies will violate it when they capture our troops or citizens. And it doesn't matter whether other nations or terrorists have done it to us, because the point of the treaties is to have international bodies to settle it, and not have an endless series of escalations of abuse.

#4 The US and the Allies tried and executed people for war crimes at Nuremberg and other places after World War II. By so cavalierly saying we should torture our enemies, she's discarding any moral authority the US has. And for what? Some tough talk?

#5 Torture doesn't work. The Senate report says torture doesn't work. And we only know who the fuck Sarah Palin is because John McCain picked her as a running mate, and John McCain says torture doesn't work. Here's John McCain speaking about torture:

I know from personal experience that the abuse of prisoners sometimes produces good intelligence but often produces bad intelligence because under torture a person will say anything he thinks his captors want to hear — true or false — if he believes it will relieve his suffering. Often, information provided to stop the torture is deliberately misleading.
Mistreatment of enemy prisoners endangers our own troops, who might someday be held captive. While some enemies, and al-Qaeda surely, will never be bound by the principle of reciprocity, we should have concern for those Americans captured by more conventional enemies, if not in this war then in the next.

But, hearing Palin, it's pretty clear she doesn't care whether it works as a way to get information to stop attacks, she just wants America's enemies to know that we torture. Because torture is an end in itself. Because she thinks it will "put the fear of God in our enemies", as though all our bombs and missiles and drones and armies and planes and everything mean nothing.

I for one am just glad "if Sarah Palin were in charge" never happened, and hope it stays that way.

So, for not only condoning torture but enthusiastically supporting it, regardless of the consequences or perceptions, Sarah Palin is the Asshole of the Day.

It is Sarah Palin's fifth time as Asshole of the Day. Previous wins were for

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