it’s fucking insane that a moderator had to say “there is no state where you can kill a baby after it’s born” at a presidential debate.
Should be fucking obvious---after birth, there's no pregnancy to abort.
But one half of the argument keeps insisting on the pretense that the goal is killing babies rather than ending unwanted/dangerous pregnancies, so here we are, occupying a world where that allegation makes sense to some people.
Also, while late-term abortions can happen (as in: the pregnancy is aborted at 8-9 months along) it's not happening for reasons of "just decided they didn't want to have a baby after all". It happens for reasons like "the fetus is dead or dying or has a 0% chance to survive birth and letting the pregnancy continue at this point would just cause more physical and/or mental trauma to the person carrying it". If the fetus is viable outside the womb and pregnancy needs to be ended for medical reasons, what they do is induce labor early because at that point induced labor is not significantly harder on the pregnant person's body than an abortion procedure would be, and damn near everyone who's carried a pregnancy nearly to full term has done so because they WANT to have a child.
Banning these abortions results in no more living babies but plenty more women dying of sepsis because they weren't allowed to have a dead and rotting fetus removed from their wombs, plenty more traumatized families who lost a wife and mother or had to go through an ordeal of thinking she would die as they begged a judge to allow an exemption so that the doctors can legally save her life.
Conservatism is a misogynistic death cult, and "pro-life" is nothing but gaslighting.