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wearyewe

Being a non-ethnically Jewish adopted child of Jews is weird. Technically you are a convert, but technically you aren’t. You’re declared to be Jewish. The only “conversion” you go through are the Bet Din, the mikveh, and sometimes (for people born with penises) a bris. And that’s all depending on if you are adopted by a religious family and if so, what denomination they are. You don’t go through any of the other parts of conversion.

And you’re raised the same as any other Jewish person who is a Jew from birth, so you don’t feel like a convert. You don’t feel any different than any of the other kids at Hebrew school, singing Ein Keloheinu or learning your haftorah portion. Your parents don’t treat you as anything but their child. Their Jewish child, whom they happened to have adopted.

And when you get older, and if you are open that you are an adoptee you get things like “well, you’re not a REAL jew” thrown at you. So you start to think that maybe you have to choose between these two integral parts of your identity: Jew or Adopted. Because outsiders think they’re mutually exclusive.

And you don’t talk to your parents about it, because you don’t want to hurt them. You may not understand why people say these things to you, but you KNOW that your parents will be hurt. So you just bury it down and just laugh when someone says something antisemitic and follows it up by saying that it’s okay because you aren’t REALLY Jewish. The follow up that’s never verbalized, but you hear anyway is: “because you’re adopted.” Because you can’t be both.

My two older sisters converted when my mom converted to Orthodoxy (her previous reformed conversion was deemed not kosher and because Orthodox law only accepts matrilineal Jews, my older sisters had to convert as well). They were seven and three at the time and even before that, they were being raised Jewish, if not observant. One of them is actually currently in the process of adopting a baby with her husband, so I wonder if maybe her own strange status as a convert (and whether or not she is a convert varies on who you ask) will enable her to help her child with this.

I think it definitely will. Even if you’re the most empathetic parent, having shared struggles and experiences with your child is just different than merely being empathetic and understanding of your child’s struggles. And that’s not to say that if your sister had not had to go through a conversion to be accepted into Orthodoxy that she would not be able to sympathize or parent her child as well. My mother and father are amazing parents (although not without their faults, but who is), but there are just some things that I have to explain to them about my life experience merely due to them not being adoptees that I would most likely not have to explain if they were adoptees because they have no basis for comparison. Although, similarly, they have to explain what it was like growing up Jewish in America in the 40s-60s, because I grew up in the 80-90s and I have no basis for comparison.

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a heist novel where an eclectic gang of jews sneak into the vatican to take back the menorah

Okay building on this. I want there to be a mix of Jews here. Different minhags, different diaspora experiences, different levels of religious observance. Different countries of residence. One of them has to be Italian though because Vatican. There has to be a variety of skill sets. Historical experts, thievery experts, random dumbasses along for the ride. oh and they're QUEER. they're QUEER AS SHIT.

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so the tree of life shooter got sentenced to death and im rather glad about that (esp bc the defense attorney invoked the commandment to choose life in her defense, what chutzpah) but now im also very intrigued about how exactly the halakha says jews should feel about the death penalty. i know vaguely how it worked with the sanhedrin and the opinions of the time about the death penalty being enacted by them (that a sanhedrin who sentences a man to death even every 70 years is bloodthirsty) but what’s the consensus in the diaspora? especially for cases of antisemitic violence?

this isn’t me saying anything about how we should feel about the sentencing of the shooter or other infamous antisemites, im just genuinely interested in what the religious law has to say about this sort of situation.

I’m intrigued by the halacha as well. That said, I don’t know what good it does to kill him… if anything I worry it will make him into a martyr.

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hindahoney

Typical of Judaism, we disagree about essentially everything. I wouldn’t say that capital punishment is against Judaism, but generally there are pretty high standards one must meet in order to qualify for a death sentence. The Talmud does mention four different types of acceptable execution methods, which leads us to believe that capital punishment is not completely out of the question. To look at modern times, the Jewish state has only carried out the capital punishment twice, one of which was for Adolf Eichmann.

Largely, looking at American Jews, the Reform and Conservative movements have generally supported abolition of the death penalty, while the Orthodox Union has stated that they conditionally support it, if it were to be reformed (chiefly, one of the reforms mentioned was racial bias in the judicial system).

So, halachically, it’s… sort of permissible? Rabbis have stated this issue still needs to be studied. The Torah permits, and even commands in certain cases, that we punish someone with death. In practice, however, the crime has to be egregious in order for the death penalty to even be considered. The Talmud lays out very specific conditions that must be met, such as several eye witnesses, of which no one contradicts their testimony, and a thorough examination of their testimony to identify any potential faults or questions. Which, in this case, I believe those conditions were met.

Interesting, thank you for this write up. Re: your tags:

Yeah, agreed, no dispute from me that he has done unforgivable things and I will not mourn him. I do, however, worry about how this will affect the Jewish community afterwards. Will this encourage more hate crimes? Will it make people see us as vengeful and violent, and therefore more acceptable as targets?

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Every year Rosh Hashana reminds me that I don't hate red and green together, I just can't stand the relentless omnipresence of it during the four months of Xmas.

Anyway you heard it here first: green and red are Rosh Hashana colors now 🍏🍎🍏🍎🍏

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People who are antisemitic are so silly. Like oh you wanna talk shit about Jews? Ok then give me everything you own invented by a Jew; your iPhone, Wi-Fi, your car, your birth control pills, anything with a barcode, GPS, bra, video games, pens, aspirin, flash drive, cards with chips, remote controls, condoms, computers , clothes made with a sewing machine…. You know what just give me your wallet while we’re at it

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kick-a-long

you forgot the internet.

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tlirsgender

Can I say I think it’s insane how “xenophobia is fine if their government is bad enough” is like a mainstream liberal opinion to have. Also just deeply funny to think that way as an american. You think random people should be hated for where they’re from except for you? War crimes capital of the world? Please be serious. Or is it like a guilt thing. Idk

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scientia-rex

I think a lot about how, if the glorious violent revolution happens, every kid with significant medical needs in a hospital where power gets cut will die.

You can decide you're willing to sacrifice your own life, but you don't get to tell everybody else on the planet that they're acceptable collateral damage.

This gets notes every time it drifts into leftist circles. But here’s the thing: I am a doctor. I have cared for children in hospitals. Vast, intricate supply chains that rely on functioning world governments with trade agreements are necessary to the provision of modern medical care. There is no way to work it so those kids can win if electricity, water, food, or medical supplies like sterile intravenous fluid bags or EKG stickers get interrupted. Forget even permanent disruption, a temporary disruption of the sterile tubing necessary for surgery would mean a lot of kids die of appendicitis. The generators we have as back-up are meant to last minutes, not weeks. And you can say “under my new system, the total violence done would ultimately be less than the violence done by the state,” but it’s easier to say that about a hypothetical kid than one lying on a gurney in front of you. When you’ve been responsible for a life—when you’ve lost a patient, when you’ve been through a Code Blue for a one-year-old—there is nothing you would not do in order to protect that life. I think all the time about what Devil’s bargains I would make for various situations; it’s one of the fucked up things I do. I can tell you that I would kill anyone who tried to cut power to my hospital, or I would die trying. There is no alternative.

The world is too interconnected to allow one part of it to go down. When Puerto Rico got slammed by hurricanes and the US did fuck all about it, we had a nationwide shortage of bagged IV fluids. I was working in hospitals through that. Things we normally do as part of routine medical care, like giving the puking kid with the migraine IV Zofran and Reglan, got a whole lot harder. I was working inpatient during COVID, when there were sudden shortages of pain and anxiety medications we relied on, like opioids and benzodiazepines. There was a nationwide shortage of lidocaine last year and we had to save it for biopsies of suspect cancers. Surgery requires not only a surgeon but an entire team of people and complex equipment to safely sterilize tools, most of which are now based around laparoscopic surgery that requires camera tools instead of the old-school open surgeries. You could not even say “but the surgeons can still operate” because no. They can’t. Not safely. Not with ether instead of succinate and fentanyl. I could deliver your baby after the apocalypse, but who’s staffing the blood banks when you have a post-partum hemorrhage and I don’t have three trained nurses with a kit of specialty meds to slow the bleeding? I still remember the time during the worst of COVID when I couldn’t fly a patient from our rural hospital to an urban hospital that could have done the operation he needed, because the hospitals were completely full. I had to buy time with heavy-duty IV antibiotics (the one and only time I’ve been allowed to use a -penem) while he lay there in agony for 12 hours until a bed came open and we could transfer him. If we couldn’t treat the pain and keep the infection from killing him long enough to operate, he would have died then and there, in front of us, while we stood there helplessly.

So how many kids are you OK with watching die from a ruptured appendix? That’s what comes in to the ED at two in the morning and within half an hour if you’re lucky has an ultrasound proving the diagnosis and a surgeon getting scrubbed in. If there isn’t ultrasound, ultrasound techs, pain medication, anesthesiologists, ventilation machine for when you’re under, light-up scopes with blades to allow for intubation bc then there’s direct visualization of the vocal cords, paralytic medications to keep you still, medications to keep you asleep, monitoring machines that read your blood pressure ans CO2 levels and pulse oximetry while you’re under, computer scheduling for OR time, post-op recovery nurses, gurneys, autoclaves, specialized small metal tools for the surgery—if there are interruptions in training or production of any of these and a whole lot more, anyone could die of a surgical problem, but it hurts worse when it’s a kid. Watch breast cancer come back into vogue, as we lose mammograms. You ever treated a woman who’s ignored breast cancer so long it’s now a fungating mass? Go Google what that looks like. Two cases have walked into my office and they are both dead now. One was schizophrenic. Without modern global supply chains, we don’t have lorazepam or morphine for humane death, let alone psych meds. How many people would deteriorate? Get specific. Which friends would you be willing to watch die? Which of their kids are expendable?

What kind of violent revolution are you planning where you are able to look a patient in the eye and tell them, “Your death is necessary to my vision,” and not understand that you are the villain?

You get to decide whether you want to end your own life for this glorious future. You do not get to decide to end my life or my patients’ lives or anyone else’s. You are not God and you do not get to make plans as if you are, as if you have the One Correct Vision and the rest of us just need to fall in line and follow the prophet. Fuck you. You think the Black kid whose treatment team I was on while he writhed in pain on a hospital bed because he had a kidney transplant and it was rejecting wouldn’t tell you to go fuck yourself about your violent revolution? Our society is no longer able to tolerate large-scale disruptions. We have built too much and we would lose too much. We are too big to fail, and although it’s easy to see that as a bad thing, what I keep seeing, over and over, is that transplant team. How the nephrologist and the resident and the nurses and techs and pharmacists and therapists were working together to keep that kid alive. The scientists who did the research, relying on impossibly complex systems that have taken hundreds of years to build. Collaboration is how we survive.

We cannot allow the vulnerable to die and call that progress. We cannot turn the lights out on any hospitals, because the people in the ICU on ventilators will stop breathing and die within minutes. Would you want that to happen if it’s your mother in that ICU? Would you tell your mother the answer to that? What if it was your child? What about your favorite sibling? How many of other people’s families are you willing to sacrifice for the sake of something that stands a virtually 100% chance of going up in flames immediately, when we look at prior attempts at creating a new government out of war and chaos? The massive impacts of even “small” shortages on patients is not theoretical and has killed patients since I’ve been an attending, starting three years ago.

You do not own the right to anyone else’s life.

And if you think you want a violent revolution, see how you do with your next toothache without pain meds, lidocaine, dental expertise, and composite that lets you keep the tooth and keep chewing. How long would you have to suffer to crack?

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it's honestly wild talking to like. random liberals about sci fi sometimes because they just don't... think about the ramifications of their random beliefs and what the end points of their ideologies are

"gene roddenberry's vision was that by the time of star trek, earth had moved on from the need for religion!"

and it's like. i get it. you forget that every religion exists except american christianity. or you think that all religion basically is american christianity.

but when you say to me, "hey, in my utopian future, jews and muslims and their cultures have simply been eradicated <3"

that. doesn't strike me as very utopian. it sounds very, funnily enough, christofascist

"it's the 24th century and these lads are literally doing bits from hamlet, but don't worry, jews have ceased to exist"

like there's constant quotes from shakespeare or dickens or conan doyle or countless other authors from the literary canon, and that literary canon is predominantly made up of white male christian authors, most of whom are british or american

and all of the human culture in star trek is predominantly defined by white american christian mores and cultural ideals, slightly modernised, but not by that much

it's a desire to treat an ultra modern culture as inherently homogenous because for a certain kind of xenophobic liberal, they genuinely internalise the idea that multiculturism is the cause of strife and conflict rather than lack of tolerance for other cultures, and frankly, they've never truly been comfortable in any sort of multicultural environment

and it's just. gross. and it's honestly wild to me that people will spend like. days and days thinking of the "ethical ramifications" of their like, transporter clone plot, but won't think for a second, "hey, i've created a world where jews, muslims, sikhs, hindus, buddhists, and countless other religious and ethnic groups No Longer Exist, and that's go-- um. wait a second--"

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