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posi-pan
Anonymous asked:

I can’t find your post with proof of the creator of the sunset lesbian flag being an exclusionist, is there any chance you could help me find it?

sure thing! you probably couldn't find what you were looking for because i don't actually have one post dedicated to providing the sources on this. the links are scattered among different posts and shared in the notes.

but i guess this will now serve as the post you were looking for lmao.

her being anti mspec lesbian (one of the screenshots include her saying "you're just bi and selfish" which. yikes.): https://twitter.com/PearloLesbo/status/1220515025355464706?s=20

her being transphobic, nonbinary-phobic, mspecphobic, and aphobic: https://twitter.com/theemilygwen/status/1444857476281630725

also keep in mind that she made the seven stripe sunset flag. a different person made the altered five stripe sunset flag, so if you're uncomfortable using an exclusionist's flag but like the sunset flag, you can use the five stripe sunset flag. https://twitter.com/lesflagisracist/status/1107301686895362048

and she wasn't the first to combine the orange and pink flags, so there's no need to distance from the design altogether because of her. she didn't create it. https://seraphic-sapphic-safehaven.tumblr.com/post/618756451040624641/a-flag-for-all-m-spec-lesbians-by-love4bipanz-on

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asterosian

I guarantee you, anyone with “x critical” wording in their blog description is either a radfem or unwittingly drinking radfem koolaid

not to be that dude but what about kink critical or people who are critical of the media they consume (like su critical). i dont think they’re drinkin the koolaid, i think its just unfortunate that radfems ruined ___ critical. (which im confused anyway because I’ve literally only seen radfems use gender critical)

Swerfs often consider themselves kink critical so that’s been ruined for me, too. That might not be the case for other people but it is for a fair amount of people.

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warriorsdebt

kink-critical is 12,000% radfem koolaid and that’s just the facts. Like I hate speaking about this publicly in any capacity for a lot of reasons but this is like the 4th example of this misunderstanding I’ve seen this week and it needs to be addressed because I feel like people are starting to lose the thread of radical feminism and its pervasive toxicity by boiling the entire ideology down to only the TERF [and occasionally SWERF] archetypes so I guess I gotta bring this discussion down on my own damn head. So here’s the deal: the foundational tenets of radical feminism result in many wide-reaching beliefs About The World, and men, and women, and people of other genders, and the way they interact–and they have a great deal of interest in classifying those systems of interaction in ways that reinforce the foundational tenets. One of those beliefs is that men are abusers and women victims, unilaterally. They believe also that women are brainwashed by patriarchy to accept, normalize, or overlook violence done against them by men. This is tied in directly with beliefs about BDSM being a system which allows men to abuse women, and which encourages women to believe they want it when in fact they are being conditioned to accept violence. If you’re seeing some kernels of swerf n’ terf ideology in that portrayal, good–you’re getting the point. BDSM [or a straw man of it, anyway] is usually the big bad in this system of beliefs, but the formation of the argument allows it to reach well into other kinks and sexual practices, reclassifying them into some form that denies the agency of everyone involved, paints at least one party as an abuser exploiting a power system, and positions radical feminists as the noble crusaders defending Good Misled Women from Bad Exploitative Men–tying the whole thing back into the core ideas they have about the shape of the world, and also tying them into their other beliefs–what kind of people are men, for example, or what kind of behaviours women are A. not allowed to do and B. are too ignorant to realise they shouldn’t be doing [in their belief system]. Because that’s the thing about radical feminism at the end of the day. All of the beliefs are interconnected and products of the same twisted logic, usually reinforced with just enough grains of truth or plausibility to make them appealing–and to make them likely to be picked up, embraced, and circulated by people who may not recognize their origins. This is deliberate. Recruitment is a major game for radfems, and rather than hit a potentially open-minded, reasonable person over the head with “trans women are men” right out of the gate, they seed these other, tangential beliefs first. They package them in conspicuously TERF-free wrapping. They sprinkle them into communities where they’ll be taken at that face value. They market them to vulnerable people looking for a way to explain, understand, and heal from bad things that have happened to them. And then, when you’ve swallowed that key piece of their logic, they bring you into the fold by giving you more and more of the big picture, each step leading naturally and by design from the one you’ve already accepted. And I know this, because that’s how they got me. They found a young, scared, confused, hurt person–someone who had had their interest in kink used by unscrupulous people to rape and abuse them, and someone who had been alienated from mainstream feminism due to complicated trauma reactions around those same events. It wasn’t my fault, they assured me. Of course Other Feminists weren’t equipped to understand me. They could help me heal. They could help me understand. They knew what I’d been through and they had the answers. They got me hook line and fucking sinker by using their kink-critical ideologies to exploit my trauma and vulnerability and position themselves as the answer to my pain. And then they fed me more, and more, and more beliefs that all seemed like such a natural extension of that first one, the one I was the most receptive to. It took me years to figure out what had happened and disentangle myself, and I’m still deprogramming a lot of it. So, yeah. Kink-critical is radfem ideology down to the bones. And because I know it’s gonna come up–you’re allowed to not like kink in general. You’re allowed to be squicked or triggered by specific kinks, or even the whole affair. Complicated or even outright negative reactions to those things are well within the range of normal. But “kink-critical” as a whole, and as an unexamined belief including refusing to question where it came from, who it benefits, and what it leads to, is pure radfem bullshit. 

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jadelyn

There’s a big old difference between “I’m not comfortable with kink stuff/I don’t like BDSM” and “kink-critical”. Because, just like with “gender-critical”, it’s a euphemism meant to hide that these people absolutely think they have not only the right, but the ~moral obligation~ to step in and save people from themselves, if they’re daring to do a thing that the radfem in question dislikes. “It’s just being critical of a thing! Critical thinking is good! I’m not trying to tell anyone how to live their life…I mean, I am, but I still want the plausible deniability of hiding behind this pseudo-academic/pseudo-analytical term.”

And just as “gender-critical” means not “I am criticizing the structures of binary gender” but “I am going to criticize your gender, specifically, and your expression of it as well, and I’m going to be very nasty and very violent about it and still think I’m justified and standing on the moral high ground”, “kink-critical” doesn’t mean “I am looking critically at the ways which kink may interact with social structures like race, gender, etc.” but instead means “I’m going to reach into your sex life and criticize your kinks, specifically, and accuse you of supporting violence against women, and still think I’m justified and standing on the moral high ground.”

Honestly, if you don’t want to be taken for a radfem and don’t want to unwittingly help further spread their cancerous tentacles, ban the “[thing]-critical” construction from your vocabulary entirely. Purge it. Put words in a different order, use other phrases and words to convey “I choose to think critically about [thing] and am aware of the ways it may be problematic even though I engage with it for my own reasons”, but just keep “[thing]-critical” off your blog and out of your mouth. I’m sorry, I’m sure that’s inconvenient, but sadly radfems have ruined it to such an extent that I don’t think it can be reclaimed, at least not in this space - if you use it, that acts as a signal both to radfems and to those of us who’ve had to deal with them that you are either a radfem already, or a ripe candidate for recruitment. So if that’s not what you want to convey yourself as, don’t use that phrase, ever, at all, about anything, but ESPECIALLY not kink-critical or gender-critical.

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nothorses

Linking in the interview with an ex-radfem here, because it’s an incredibly relevant read.

And to add on the old Fandom Discourse like a complete fucking fool: I would even say “SU-critical” is likely to have some kernals of radfem ideology in it, too. There are plenty of reasons to have beef with Steven Universe, and I personally do not give a shit about that- being critical of the show is not the issue.

But I was around for that first wave of “SUcrit” stuff. The people calling themselves “SU critical” were the same people who later ended up being aphobes and exclusionists, the same people who were “kink-critical”, etc., and that’s not a coincidence.

Ace exclusionism was explicitly started by TERFs and radfems, because that type of “who are the real [marginalized group]” discourse is exactly what they need normalized in order to persuade more people down the rabbithole, just as the same goes for “kink-critical”. (See that interview for more context, and @exradfem, who’s since spoken on the topic in more depth.)

The original reason people started calling themselves “SU-critical” was because someone dug up fanart depicting unseemly kinks that Rebecca Sugar, the showrunner, had put out years and years prior to ever working on the show. This is not a defense of that fanart; but the subsequent rise of “this show is secretly evil” takes was deeply, deeply rooted in “kink-critical” ideas: i.e. someone who engages in Kink is inherently dangerous, and all of their actions, ideas, and creations are similarly evil. (And this is just conjecture, but I wouldn’t be super shocked to find out TERFs were behind the push to “cancel” the first animated kid’s show to depict transgender/nonbinary characters.)

“SUcrit” discourse had people fully and genuinely theorizing that Rebecca Sugar, a nonbinary Jewish person, was secretly a fascist Nazi sympathizer. They didn’t directly tie every claim back to that original “icky kink” issue, but something tells me those theories wouldn’t have existed if not for the initial push founded on “kink-critical” ideas.

Not to mention “SU-critical” never really meant “I am thinking critically about the ways in which systems of power have interacted with this show and it’s messaging”, it meant “I am critical of you, personally, for liking Steven Universe even though I have deemed it Morally Reprehensible, and I am going to bully and harass you into either agreeing with me, or becoming too afraid to talk about the show at all anymore.” (At least, at the height of the discourse.)

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Still not over that “‘ace tumblr’ is a privileged fandom and those ppl have zero Real Problems and no experiences with oppression at all” shit and 1) how many ppl went along with it and 2) how I saw zero literally zero ppl on the “exclusion” side calling it out, in any notes or otherwise. Instead I saw a lot of ppl agreeing

Like holy shit how can’t you realize how vile all that crap is omg.

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vaspider

This showed up in a recommended posts thing for me and it’s from 2016 and this is exactly what we mean by “anti-transmasc bullshit is 200% recycled”.

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anistarrose

So, it's not a moral failing to be bad at what I'm about to describe. But collectively, most of Tumblr is bad at identifying polls that function as bait for bigotry and harassment. Polls that, either intentionally or unintentionally, encourage people to spew hatred about a marginalized queer sub-community — because that sub-community is considered, at least by some, an acceptable enough target.

Most of us have probably seen that polyamory poll go around (as of September 2024). Fewer people have probably taken a look at the notes on that poll — and in many ways, that's for the best, because a lot of the notes are fucking vile. I won't link the poll itself, but content warning for threats of domestic violence and suicide in just this sampling. I don't know enough about the poll creator to make assumptions towards their intent, but that poll was functionally bait, acting as encouragement for people to spew vitriol and bigotry.

And none of this is specific to that individual poll! In December 2023, a single person made a series of polls about friends with benefits, and the "question" of whether aromantic heterosexual cisgender men were queer — and those polls led to huge waves of arophobia and sex negativity (inseparable from, let's be honest, some mask-off radfem shit). On top of that, multiple polls about people's feelings towards sex, or experiences with such, have turned into a festival for bashing both asexuals and virgins — insofar as the people doing the bashing use those words as anything but interchangeable insults.

Polyamorous people. Aromantic people, especially aromantic allosexuals. Asexual people, especially those who are virgins or sex-repulsed. That's a clear and obvious trend — they're all people who do relationships differently. People whose relationships and identities are considered "cringe." Who are considered acceptable targets to mock within the queer community. Making fun of "polycule drama," making fun of "queerplatonic," making fun of a-spec microlabels.

So many people who call themselves sex-positive refuse to extend that positivity to polyamorous people and aromantic people. To casual sex, to sex without monogamous romance. They insist that the polyamorous, the aromantic, are in fact the predators, the abusers, the degenerate queers that the conservative pearl-clutching queerphobes were right about. They tack on asexuals to the "abuser" category, too, because allegedly no one could ever be happy in a relationship with an asexual; because allegedly it's manipulative to your partner to refuse sex! Meanwhile, asexuality and sex repulsion are conflated with the completely different concept of sex negativity, twisting the language of sexual liberation to demonize asexuals further...

And yes, polls play a role in all of this! Of course, not every poll about sexual experiences, for one example, is a poll intended to bait or to harm people! But if they blow up, there is a high risk of people feeling emboldened to comment things like: "so many people are okay with casual sex, or multiple sexual partners! this is what's wrong with the world, it's all just toxic hookup culture!" Or if not that, then things like: "look how few people on this virgin loser website have had sex! this is what's responsible for cultural sex negativity! they'd all be better, more progressive queers if they just got laid more!"

And that's not even getting into the obvious, and obviously intentional bait. The "cishet aromantic men" poll, most egregiously. Clout-chasers hide behind the veil of "I'm just curious about people's opinions!" and then, put out a poll catered to the most rancid, exclusionist, verging-on-radfem opinions. At the very least, catered to platforming them seriously, when people inevitably feel emboldened to say that shit they've been thinking.

And "emboldened" really is the key word here. These polls increase the social acceptability of saying cruel shit about polyamorous people, a-spec people, and whoever else becomes the queer community's acceptable target of the year. The groups discussed in this post are by no means the only popular targets for harassment and exclusionism, but they are some of the most egregious examples I've seen personally, and they are tied together by their non-normative approaches to relationships or lack thereof. Moreover, the groups overlap — I am personally aromantic and asexual, not polyamorous — but even then, my struggles with amatonormativity overlap with those of polyamorous people.

And I bring this up because for years, I've witnessed popular Tumblr bloggers attack a-specs and polyamorous people within the same posts. With the same tactics, using cringe culture in addition to demonizing alternative types of relationships. Now, polls are another weapon for harassing us. And, it is... absolutely exhausting.

Of course, there's obviously a sliding scale of how prone polls can be to harassment. I don't think polls just asking about people's sexual experiences need to be totally anathemized and blotted off the face of the earth, for example — but you know, maybe consider searching OP's blog for "asexual" and some other keywords before you reblog one?

Furthermore, maybe just don't reblog polls about "does X count as LGBTQ," even if you're in support, because you're still legitimizing the poll to begin with. Maybe proceed with caution with posts that mention polyamory, even if not in an inflammatory way, unless maybe you know that OP is polyam themselves. Maybe block, obviously don't harass, but just silently and unceremoniously block people that make a lot of clout-chasing polls about controversial queer issues.

I don't know. I don't have all the answers. I'm not an expert on catching these red flags myself — the first time I saw the polyamory poll, I ignored it just because it was irrelevant to me as a non-partnering person, not because I clocked it as something that would generate hate and threats. So really, if I do have a plea to end on — it's just to listen to people, polyam and a-spec and otherwise, when they say that some post is generating hate and threats towards them. And then, maybe, try to learn some red and orange flags from the experience.

None of us are part of every queer sub-community that Tumblr loves to harass. We all have blind spots, and that's inevitable, not a failure of you as a person. But after seeing so many of these bait polls go around, after seeing multiple rallying effects in the communities followed by people letting their guards down, and circulating a slightly different bait poll... well? I just hope that eventually, people will be willing to learn.

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I dislike how clumsy it is to share Twitter threads but here is a portion from a guy I follow (for his trans porn and monster fucking content at that) echoing a sentiment that aces, traumatized people, people with low libido, etc. can fully relate to. The rest is here and it’s absolutely worth the read.

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mastreworld

“Sex isn’t special” 

Thank you! I’ve always been fascinated by how sexuality is viewed in such a dramatic, over-criticized way when it’s just another one of those things we do in life, no different from eating, sleeping or playing.

This is also why sex workers don’t appreciate being pathologized for having sex for no other reason than ‘hell yeah money’ or ‘sure, beats an office job’.

( @johannestevans is on Tumblr as well btw!)

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That's cool you're hot but are you a nice person?

[Image ID: A set of tumblr tags. The tags are: “#how do you treat animals? #how do you treat people you aren’t attracted to? #how do you treat children that aren’t yours? #how do you treat nature?” End ID.]

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devine-fem

“why can’t two guys be platonic best friends in peace?” THEY ARE platonic bestfriends. you guys really need to understand that no amount of shipping will change that, canon will stay unchanged so what’s the whining for?

this ‘problem’ only exists in your mind. hope this helps!

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