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A Saltshaker is a Big Mood

@antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx / antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx.tumblr.com

I'm basically Slim Shady, the T-800, the roaring 20's, I'm back, back again. Discourse blog for this hellsite. Discusses serious, disturbing, and/or NSFW topics, with appropriate tagging. MAINLY ACTIVE ON TWITTER. @adybpt. Most people call me Mouse (or Thomas/Tom, if you'd rather). Resident forensic psych major. 26 years old. Grey ace pan. Bigender transmasc. Any pronouns. Abuse survivor. Neurodivergent. Queer. Against REGs, authoritarians, and bigots in general. Owner of the Fujin/Pro Shipper Support Group Discord. Any supporters welcome! Send an ask to @adybpt-proship-discord for an invite. If you'd like to check out my fics, I'd be happy for any support! Everything should be properly warned, but feel free to ask for tags. More detailed about me Carrd.
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Anonymous asked:

...Who's this jh*nni person? Name sounds familiar but I can't place which shithead they are (I've seen so many)

I'm sure they'll chime in to yell at me for daring to speak out, but they're a known defender of St*tch and a few other anti ship fans who claim to be "academically, constructively criticising fandom", which is a claim most of us pro shippers strongly disagree with given their history of targeting Reylos (and other "problematic shippers") and calling them Nazis and bigots etc for their ships. Jhonni's favourite tactic is sealioning (this is a disingenuous debate tactic, Google probably explains it better) and concern trolling (same, Prof Google is the one to go to here). They've also said some extremely insulting things about survivors. Just watch them pop up on this post (despite me clearly telling them to piss off) and you'll get an idea of what we're dealing with here.

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as-thou-will

still not over the time jh*nni thought it was perfectly fine to say that actually they assume if a rape survivor is real or not by the fiction they make and basically accuse people of lying about coping, and also conflate those people with taking fic ideas from other peoples' real life traumatic events. or the time jh*nni first denied that someone might feel suicidal after harassment and then in the same tweet said but if they do, talking about it is weaponizing it

YEP. This is what I was talking about when I mentioned what they had said about survivors. Absolutely disgusting stuff.

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Idk I'm in a bit of a bad way (over something I'll sum up after this) but like

HEAVY CW for discussion of abuse

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Sometimes I need validation that my abuse was actual abuse and I'm not crazy.

Sometimes I feel really guilty because the majority of the worst of my abuse occured in long distance relationships, and since they could never physically attack me I feel like it's not "real abuse". But also I'll say some of the things they did and be like "oh."

Idk I just. I'm going to trauma dump on my blog here, and if you can stomach it (if you can't just scroll, I'm not mad, it's why you don't trauma dump where there's no escape for anyone in the first place), can you tell me I'm not crazy? And that this was as bad as it felt? (CW for everything except physical violence):

But, like. Okay. So. They knew where I lived (in all instances). One needed to know where I was 24/7 and would call 1000x if I didn't update. The other would just look for inconsistencies in my story. Like "oh you said you ate dinner already, but now you're being called for more dinner? What are you really doing?" Dinner got delayed and I didn't think you cared if I told you bud??

I couldn't hang out with other friends without them involved somehow. If I physically left the house and hung out in person it was treated as a personal betrayal. One needed a play-by-play of who, when, and where.

The constant verbal abuse was tiring. If I made any mistake, I was belittled or snapped at. If I made a series of mistakes, I was screamed at, called useless, etc.

Any requests for positive reinforcement were denied. Often he wouldn't even say I love you. If I wanted to show or receive affection I was mainly mocked. If I was nice and complimentary he would say it felt fake so there was no point.

CW suicide //

I got told to kill myself once, while I was in the middle of a panic attack.

He knew I was triggered by suicide and self harm threats (from the last abuser, yay) and would often bring them out if I disappointed him at all. He'd describe in graphic detail the exact way he'd slit his wrists (or nick an artery) and said he'd send photos. Said if I called the police they wouldn't make it in time. He also sometimes described hanging instead, but mainly cuts, probably because he knew I was hemophobic.

He would say he didn't want to trigger me and then... Keep doing shit that would. Like the aforementioned threats or showing me triggering videos (usually NSFW). And then he'd get upset when I had a reaction to it. If he didn't trigger me, he'd say stuff like "well we could do this, but it would make you freak out, so, guess not" and then when I'd force myself to so we could spend time together he'd get upset if I wasn't 100% enthusiastic.

CW sexual coercion //

He'd ESPECIALLY do this when it came to anything sexual. "Ugh, everything crosses your boundaries or makes you uncomfortable, so we can't do anything". Then he'd withhold anything sexual until I agreed to what he wanted. One time he accused me of faking being okay. I lied and said no I'm fine really so he wouldn't stop and then give me the silent treatment for ages (once it was like two weeks). And he was like, okay, you're fine? Prove it. Strip and put on a show on camera for me. And when I broke down in the middle he was like "told you so."

TOLD YOU SO? TOLD YOU SO?

He would ask for nude pics a lot, which I don't give a shit about usually, but then if I ever pissed him off he'd threaten to post them online. And on "rate my body" type sites, too, for extra burn.

Basically I did a lot of shit on camera I wasn't comfortable with (or in the mood for) because I was afraid he'd never show me any sexual attention otherwise. We rarely did what I was into, because it made him uncomfortable. Wow, you're uncomfy, imagine how I must feel?

Like, unless we were doing what he wanted he never really indicated he was into me in any way. Compliments were few and far between, + he didn't like if I asked if I looked cute etc. He also said I wasn't his usual type. I felt unwanted. And like I was hysterical for being upset.

He also didn't like that I was nonbinary and was uncomfortable with any presentation other than strictly female because it would make him look like he was dating a dude. So of course I had to pretty myself up for him, hear him talk about how he wished my voice was higher.

And then there was the lovebombing. Suffice to say he would go all out. It's what kept me coming back so long.

BUT, if I didn't use the gifts he sent me every day or seem enthusiastic enough he'd get all depressed and disappointed. "Didn't you like it?" "Should I even bother?"

And like. He wouldn't do that with emotional/affectionate lovebombing. Which literally had me wishing for a certain type of lovebombing every time I got abused and he seemed like he was going to be sorry for it. Lmao.

And, of course, the gaslighting. If I ever complained, all I ever did was complain, I was never happy. If I told him off, "oh I'm so evil and terrible I should just kms", and, boom, I was triggered and therefore too panicked to keep telling him off. "you criticise me so much, and then when I get upset, you act like I've done something terrible". Idk maybe express being upset like a normal person without triggering me???

Anyway. Sorry. Trauma dump (very long one) over.

He didn't hit me but like... That's abuse, right? He could never physically touch me but I still have nightmares?

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Suicidal people need more from society than a link to a hotline.

Such as not being institutionalized for being honest

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roboticutie

And the core problems being addressed (eg. homelessness, food scarcity, no free time between work/school, abuse, violent discrimination, no money to enjoy things with friends and family, addiction withdrawl, etc.), not just addressing the feelings these hardships result in

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In light of Sarah Z's most recent video, I've once again updated and fully compiled my album of horrific anti threats, to remind you all (again) we are not terminally online weirdos overreacting. Unless you go through the abhorrent bigotry, victim blaming, and murder fantasies below and find that totally acceptable, of course, in which case, I hope you never get near a survivor in your life.

antis are shit and terrible but this album is also shit and terrible. one, a collection of threats, “threats”, and mean comments from people who have no coordination or leadership means nothing. two, “death threats” online in general mean nothing. three, you are showing why we do not consider them meaningful, because you are just mixing together everything that is mean said by this heterogenous uncontrolled group of immature people with no control over their emotions, regardless of its severity, as if that bolsters your case instead of weakening it

pearl-clutching “Oh, I received DEATH THREATS!” posturing is always bullshit no matter who employs it

So, did you ignore the two suicides at the top of the album, or? Because they are the very first thing. Just because your most baddest of asses is unfazed by people threatening to send your address to your rapists, explaining why your father should've kept molesting you, or baiting you into killing yourself, doesn't mean everyone else is.

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Anonymous asked:

Jesus CHRIST the "suicide and self-harm are MANIPULATIVE" take is so fucking rancid I can't even. Anon, you sound like every dismissive, abusive asshole parent my mentally ill friends suffered under as teens. What the actual fuck????? You care so much about mentally ill and self-harming and suicidal teenagers, stop fucking contributing to the bullshit that they're "doing it for attention", you ABSOLUTE SHITBAG. Do you even KNOW HOW YOU SOUND? (sorry, mouse, I'm done now.)

No need to apologise, my thoughts exactly. It's truly exhausting how little they seem to actually care about what they claim "means so much" to them. It's almost like if someone tells you you're harming mentally ill teenagers online, you shouldn't call them manipulative, and instead take a moment to actually check back over your behaviour.

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Anonymous asked:

Stop using the self harm of mentally ill minors as a gotcha in an argument. It’s really not cool. Using your suicide or self harm to make a point is extremely manipulative.

I usually scroll past boring hate asks that don't really have any point to make, but I want to post this one from recently about how antis have a body count because it really shows the stunning lack of self-awareness these people have.

I was a self-harming mentally ill minor in toxic fandom, too. Now I'm that but grown up. The subject is intensely personal to me, and as someone who knows exactly what it feels like, no I will not shut up about how incredibly serious it is. Please do some reflecting that this is your response when you're told you're supporting a movement that drives mentally ill minors to suicide.

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The clownery on twitter in the last two hours is so wild idk how I'm gonna list it all

Aight let's go

TW for suicide baiting, ableism, mention of NSFW topics like thirst tweets

How it started:

How it ended up, PT 1!:

It didn't stop.

Next, suicide baiting!:

Making fun of the 15yo who committed suicide in a PFP:

Next, ableism and performative anti-capitalism:

Speaking of, not knowing the difference between fiction and reality:

What the fuck is this? Miscellaneous wackery. TW FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT:

And finally, let's end on some weird fundamentalist sounding shit:

I'm going to ignore all the "you're a weirdo and a freak"s in this roundup because those are par for the course at this point.

i was Just going through that thread and thinking how weird it was that all the people bringing up the leafy stuff are minors

sorry you're getting shit mouse, just for saying the truth

Right!? It's like maybe they shouldn't be caring at all who adults want to have sex with? They're not supposed to be there either way?!

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The clownery on twitter in the last two hours is so wild idk how I'm gonna list it all

Aight let's go

TW for suicide baiting, ableism, mention of NSFW topics like thirst tweets

How it started:

How it ended up, PT 1!:

It didn't stop.

Next, suicide baiting!:

Making fun of the 15yo who committed suicide in a PFP:

Next, ableism and performative anti-capitalism:

Speaking of, not knowing the difference between fiction and reality:

What the fuck is this? Miscellaneous wackery. TW FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT:

And finally, let's end on some weird fundamentalist sounding shit:

I'm going to ignore all the "you're a weirdo and a freak"s in this roundup because those are par for the course at this point.

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The clownery on twitter in the last two hours is so wild idk how I'm gonna list it all

Aight let's go

TW for suicide baiting, ableism, mention of NSFW topics like thirst tweets

How it started:

How it ended up, PT 1!:

It didn't stop.

Next, suicide baiting!:

Making fun of the 15yo who committed suicide in a PFP:

Next, ableism and performative anti-capitalism:

Speaking of, not knowing the difference between fiction and reality:

What the fuck is this? Miscellaneous wackery. TW FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT:

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I come back to a nocontextproshippers Instagram and of all my wild ass ramblings they choose one of my most legitimate posts huh

Anyway friendly reminder this post links to multiple sources of therapists dealing with clients traumatised or set back in their progress by antis/ND people being driven to suicide thanks to anti bs

It has 18k notes for a reason Susan

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I come back to a nocontextproshippers Instagram and of all my wild ass ramblings they choose one of my most legitimate posts huh

Anyway friendly reminder this post links to multiple sources of therapists dealing with clients traumatised or set back in their progress by antis/ND people being driven to suicide thanks to anti bs

It has 18k notes for a reason Susan

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Twitter roundup just gets wilder and wilder

TW for death wishes, dehumanisation, people being dumbasses openly:

Bonus points for this absolute shitshow,,, like

TW for abusive behaviour, gaslighting, direct verbal abuse:

This is especially sick because it feels deliberately designed to play into very typical cognitive distortions that happen in traumatised and mentally ill people. It's like they're targeting it specifically to those who are most vulnerable. What a piece of shit.

TW suicide mention:

Don't forget this gem

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Like if y'all really wanna talk about retraumatising yourself, imagine having a fucking anti as your therapist

The suicide rate would go up. I’m not even kidding right now, imagine if your therapist was constantly judging you, putting you down and telling you deserved your abuse because of what you read and you tell me there wouldn’t be a body count.

Imagine telling your therapist you have intrusive thoughts that you can’t stop having them and your so scared and your managing them the best you can and imagine that therapist telling you your a fucked up individual who belongs in a psych ward for having INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS.

Imagine telling them you wrote about your experiences and posted it on your private blog, tagged so that anyone with those triggers can avoid it, and imagine that therapist tells you your as bad as your fucking rapist.

Now imagine after you leave that therapist because you can’t take being verbally and emotionally abused and then you find out they called your parents to tell them what you told them in confidence in their office. Then the cops show up at your house because they said you were a predator and didn’t mention they reached that diagnosis because you ship Sheith.

Just fuck them. They’d break people.

Actually, there’s evidence of those with Anti / pros censorship / puritan mindsets attempting to wiggle their way into therapy and psychiatry.

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They are literally capable of causing more damage than good in the real world, with victims and the mentally ill.

As someone who goes to therapy and psychiatry this scares me.

I hate this.

That very tweet was what inspired this post. It gave me chills.

Holy fuck.

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korrasera

In case you need anymore reason to encourage people to not become antis, to not support antis, and to learn how to spot anti bullshit coming so they can head it off.

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hazel2468

Yo, in case anyone is wondering why I am so against antis, not personally, but as a Social Worker- THIS is why. 

Antis are dangerous. Antis having access to vulnerable people is dangerous. Antis being able to do things like this and push their own ideology on those seeking help for what are complicated issues, where no two people are the same, is dangerous

I cannot imagine someone sitting in a room with a client who is speaking about trauma and telling them, point blank, that they are hurting themselves by engaging in something like safe and consensual BDSM. The idea that that to me, as a Social Worker, is not only ridiculous, it is malpractice. I can PROMISE you that if anti rhetoric and this kind of bullshit makes it into the therapy scene- and I am sure it already has in some places- people will get hurt. 

Antis are vile and disgusting because they are willing to take advantage of and put down vulnerable people seeking help. And for those of you who insist that this isn’t always the case- at BEST antis are so violently ignorant of psychology, sociology, the human psyche, and how trauma operates that they are doing serious harm to people. That’s the BEST case scenario. Which I am less inclined to believe for every time I see an anti disregarding what is common, best practice knowledge- that everyone copes in their own way, that a “thought crime” is not a thing, and that approaching trauma as something black and white will ALWAYS do more harm than good. 

Once had an anti tell me my past abuse meant nothing cause of what I ship and another belittle my experience. They’re so quick to protect characters who don’t exist but put down real victims / survivors

And yet, antis claim they have the moral highground and that they are “protecting the children” while simultaneously endangering actually traumatized people over fictional characters. Yeah, right… just fuck right off. Full stop.

This culture and mindset is dangerous, it’s toxic and it helps no one, literally no one. The only thing Antis want to do is push their own beliefs and mindset onto others, no matter the consequences for that other person and completely disregarding their reasons and what they had to go through. That’s exactly what needs to stop, no questions asked.

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cherrysknife

I had various encounters with antis telling me that i was doing a disservice to abuse and rape victims for shipping a fictional ship, when i told them i was in fact an abuse victim who had been sexually harassed for years (at that point) by a family member they told me and i quote: “i can’t believe you would lie about such a subject, you obviously are not a victim if u ship this”. I slipped into such a awful depression period after that my friends worried i would drop out of uni.

I built tough skin now somewhat, but antis are such dangerous individuals, this treatment they give u, specially when you meet an anti irl (and i gave met them) and they tell u about how bdsm is just abuse and how those who like cute clothing or outfits are paedophiles bc they are romanticising children (an ACTUAL QUOTE CLASSMATES TOLD ME AFTER I SAID I WANTED TO WEAR A TENNIS SKIRT BC THEY LOOKED CUTE IN A KPOP VIDEO), its a surreal experience bc u really see their conviction in their faces and u just don’t know what to say…

I hope this sort of mentality dies out and quickly.

I am so incredibly sorry someone said that to you. What a disgusting thing for them to say, and holy shit, for people who claim fiction trivialises the severity of abuse, trivialising and dismissing incestuous abuse sure is apparently a look they’re willing to wear. I am so sorry. What the fuck, everything about that is ugly as hell.

>Those who like cute clothes or outfits are pedophiles

@libertarian-lolita Time to pack up the fluff. We can’t like cute clothes anymore because of something something romnantacizing children. The entire J fashion community has somehow been Defeated ™ and Dismantled ™. We can only dress in Sexy ™ or Ugly and Frumpty ™ clothes. 

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supersoftly

I feel very uneducated about what “antis” even is or includes.

Is it possible someone could explain who and what they are as a group in layman’s terms and how one even determines what qualifies as an anti?

An anti, in the most basic and/or coherent terms I can best describe, is a person that has a “moral obligation” to try and keep every fandom wholesome aka Soccer Mom 2.0 types that believe talking about X encourages X. 

In the 80′s, we had these kinds of people believe Heavy Metal was a gateway to satanism.

In the 90′s, it was video games.

Ouughts? Eminem was the pariah.

Now? Anything involving conflict in fan fiction, “immoral ships”, Hero x Villain dynamics, redemption arcs for characters that did bad things in a story, or on a broader scope, anything said Anti finds to be not catered to their painstakingly specific taste, therefore someone else who likes it is a bad person and should be treated like a Nazi.

Had a therapist tell me if I was indulging in dark themes in fiction for any reason besides coping, I was hindering my recovery and should strongly reconsider my consumption of works containing those themes.

fuck that therapist. I mean I get suggesting that a patient should maybe stay away from topics that upset them, but that’s not the way to go about it.

So antis becoming therapists is basically the new “Bullies become cops and bitches become nurses”

I had therapists like this, for MANDATORY counseling in group homes and schools.

I hope they lose their fucking licenses. Sweet jesus.

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Like if y'all really wanna talk about retraumatising yourself, imagine having a fucking anti as your therapist

Anyway bringing this back now two people are dead, one being a child, and one disabled rape survivor has been cut off from their finances and can no longer feed themselves, all because of antis:

I was fucking right actually

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dzamie

wait

WHAT

I don’t know what an anti is either, but wtf??

Anti stands for "anti-shipper", aka someone who is against certain fictional characters being paired up romantically (yes, that asinine). They're against "problematic" depictions of fiction. Aka, they believe that if you write a fictional story containing rape, incest, pedophilia, abuse, etc, you are normalising and condoning it occuring. They believe you are literally complicit in the fact that such terrible things occur in real life (if not actually going out and doing those things) and that you're as bad as the people who commit the crimes.

No joke.

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Like if y'all really wanna talk about retraumatising yourself, imagine having a fucking anti as your therapist

Anyway bringing this back now two people are dead, one being a child, and one disabled rape survivor has been cut off from their finances and can no longer feed themselves, all because of antis:

I was fucking right actually

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dzamie

wait

WHAT

Here's a summary. The fic author "exercising their ability to write horror" was the one who was just a kid.

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