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A Saltshaker is a Big Mood

@antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx / antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx.tumblr.com

I'm basically Slim Shady, the T-800, the roaring 20's, I'm back, back again. Discourse blog for this hellsite. Discusses serious, disturbing, and/or NSFW topics, with appropriate tagging. MAINLY ACTIVE ON TWITTER. @adybpt. Most people call me Mouse (or Thomas/Tom, if you'd rather). Resident forensic psych major. 26 years old. Grey ace pan. Bigender transmasc. Any pronouns. Abuse survivor. Neurodivergent. Queer. Against REGs, authoritarians, and bigots in general. Owner of the Fujin/Pro Shipper Support Group Discord. Any supporters welcome! Send an ask to @adybpt-proship-discord for an invite. If you'd like to check out my fics, I'd be happy for any support! Everything should be properly warned, but feel free to ask for tags. More detailed about me Carrd.
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To get on a rant for a second, I’m legitimately so angered as a Jewish person at the prevalence of “X fictional group or character is clearly a Nazi!” at characters that are not, in fact, members or supporters of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party/exterminating the Jewish population. Seriously, you may think you’re helping us out, but your “Kylo Ren and the First Order are literally Nazis! And liking them makes you a Nazi!”, “if you like any Death Eaters, you’re a Nazi apologist!”, “fans of X fictional oppressive regime’s characters are all promoting Nazism!” takes are not hot, and completely misinterpret Nazism and why it’s so insidious. To equate an ideology that killed millions of my relatives with Karen writing Kylo x Reader smut, to equate the suffering of so many human beings with “xxXSlytherinBabyXxx”’s Snape whump H/C fic doesn’t just trivialise Nazism, it’s outright fucking insulting (both to me and to fans who aren’t Jewish) and you seriously need to stop. I’ve not yet even touched on how patronising it is for goyim to tell Jewish fans they’re Nazis/Nazi sympathisers for writing villain redemption arcs, or for writing villains at all, because that would take all day! Using Nazi aesthetic parallels to make your fictional evil dictatorship seem more imposing is not the same as actually making them fucking Nazis.

End rant.

*comes back a year later*

Pointing out how many fictional dictatorships/fascist regimes are styled in the way of their real world counterparts, talking about how characters can be coded as obvious fascists/authoritarians, talking about how the Empire from SW is clearly using an obviously WWII Nazi Germany aesthetic, how the Death Eaters wear hooded robes and are obviously the magic version of white supremacists: fine, valid, I’m with you there, Nazis are vile human beings so making your villains look like Nazis is an easy way to imprint the whole part where they’re villains on your audience

SO IF YOU LIKE THESE VILLAINS’ CHARACTERS, WANT REDEMPTION FOR THEM, ARE INTERESTED IN THEIR ARC/NARRATIVE, OR JUST THINK THEY’RE COOL BAD GUYS YOU’RE A NAZI APOLOGIST AND YOU LOVE LICKING FASCIST BOOTS: absolutely, from the bottom of my heart, 100% completely, fuck you :)))

To be clear: saying this character and organisation is styled after a fascist regime and has a recognisable fascist regime aesthetic is fine. Implying that makes them LITERALLY THE SAME AS NAZIS and people who like them NAZI APOLOGISTS is not.

Also, like, how patronising and infantilising can you be in your insults? You know that people doing meta and fic on this or that villain aren’t even the edgelords who appropriate fascist symbolism because they think it makes them look cool that are the most insensitive (or at risk of apologism) here?

Like, do you honestly think strolling around in Stormtrooper gear is the same as wearing an SS uniform? That wearing a morsmordre t-shirt is the same as wearing a Swastika? There’s a disconnect here, because they’re cartoon villains, and Nazis are NOT.

Nazis are real. They may have absurd and grandiose visions of world domination that seem as laughable as Voldemort strolling around barefoot in black silk, but they’re not harmless cartoons, and they have a real death count. The Death Eaters and the Empire and the First Order are fake organisations who haven’t actually killed anyone because killing a fictional character is not actual murder. Slaughtering the Jedi is not real genocide. Killing the Muggleborns is not the Holocaust. They’re meant to invoke the same tone of eugenics, racism, and fascism, but they are not one-to-one equals, because one advocates for the death of REAL HUMANS, and the others advocate for the death of people with magical powers, who aren’t just fictional, but an actual, literal impossibility under the laws of physics. Being a fan of Darth Sidious is not like Stanning Adolf Hitler. Darth Sidious shoots lighting out of his hands and hates the space druids with the blue and green laser swords. Hitler ran death camps.

Don’t fucking trivialise Nazis and their crimes against humanity by equating them to the fucking “dewit” wrinkle man or the guy who tried to eat a unicorn.

*casually throws this post back because it’s relevant*

Aaaaaaand again

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tinynebula

i love to headcanon steve as this aggressively progressive dude but like, he begged to be part of the us army,,,,,, we can’t just Forget That

He joined to literally fight Nazis the fuck you on about?

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thadeeliv

Minecraft lore is deeper than i remember

he was also like 20 and the Internet didn’t exist so besides the fact that fighting the Nazis was one of the few good things the military has ever done, just mayhaps Steve wasn’t fully briefed on the sins of US militarism and imperialism

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afronerdism

I love that y’all think tha white people in the army in WWII joined to fight the evils of the Nazi party and not because of nationalism. The US sent minorities back to Germany to be gassed and only got involved after Germany threatened us.

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cardentist

captain america was created by joe simon and jack kirby, two jewish second generation immigrants. you can argue about what the character has come to represent culturally today but it’s absolutely insensitive to erase what the character was supposed to represent for the creators at the time.

hell this is the image on jack kirby’s wikipedia page next to the “entry into comics” section

it was absolutely a political statement, and one that positioned america against fascism, against antisemitism, which is more than we can say for some modern media or even the orange stain running our country

I would also like to add, he was introduced, like this, while the USA was not in the war, and was selling weapons to Germany -among other things. It was a very dangerous, very unpopular statement to make at the time. People love to do the ‘punch Hitler’ thing now, but when Captain America was first released with this cover, this was an extremely controversial statement. 

Captain America was created in direct response to how the USA was reacting to the war at the time as a direct call to action against injustice specifically. Created by two Jewish men who were very much affected by all of this. They specifically designed him to look like he did because that was the ““Aryan Ideal”“ as part of that statement. That is why they made him blond, blue-eyed, white, tall, and muscular. They also called him ‘Captain America’ to implicitly tie the United States to this statement. This was a metaphor of ‘The USA has to stop letting others be hurt, it’s time to step up and do something’.

It’s not only insensitive to erase that, it’s Antisemitic to call a Jewish-made character that was a political statement against antisemitism in the 1940′s by people who were fed up with watching their loved ones die while people said they ‘shouldn’t get involved’ in a massive, global genocide attempt a ‘symbol of military industrial complex imperialism and nationalism’ when he was made as a symbol of resistance and a call to fight fascism and antisemitism.

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ryuutchi

Has anyone mentioned yet that American fascists were so pissed about Captain America that some American Nazis showed up at the Marvel offices to “show what Real Americans would do to Captain America”. Jack Kirby literally rolled up his sleeves and would have beaten the shit out of them if they hadn’t run off by the time he got to the lobby.

Like, fuck you if you refuse to accept that JEWISH AMERICANS created a character that is intended to protect Jews and other marginalized groups.

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dirtyriver

This.

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To get on a rant for a second, I’m legitimately so angered as a Jewish person at the prevalence of “X fictional group or character is clearly a Nazi!” at characters that are not, in fact, members or supporters of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party/exterminating the Jewish population. Seriously, you may think you’re helping us out, but your “Kylo Ren and the First Order are literally Nazis! And liking them makes you a Nazi!”, “if you like any Death Eaters, you’re a Nazi apologist!”, “fans of X fictional oppressive regime’s characters are all promoting Nazism!” takes are not hot, and completely misinterpret Nazism and why it’s so insidious. To equate an ideology that killed millions of my relatives with Karen writing Kylo x Reader smut, to equate the suffering of so many human beings with “xxXSlytherinBabyXxx”’s Snape whump H/C fic doesn’t just trivialise Nazism, it’s outright fucking insulting (both to me and to fans who aren’t Jewish) and you seriously need to stop. I’ve not yet even touched on how patronising it is for goyim to tell Jewish fans they’re Nazis/Nazi sympathisers for writing villain redemption arcs, or for writing villains at all, because that would take all day! Using Nazi aesthetic parallels to make your fictional evil dictatorship seem more imposing is not the same as actually making them fucking Nazis.

End rant.

*comes back a year later*

Pointing out how many fictional dictatorships/fascist regimes are styled in the way of their real world counterparts, talking about how characters can be coded as obvious fascists/authoritarians, talking about how the Empire from SW is clearly using an obviously WWII Nazi Germany aesthetic, how the Death Eaters wear hooded robes and are obviously the magic version of white supremacists: fine, valid, I’m with you there, Nazis are vile human beings so making your villains look like Nazis is an easy way to imprint the whole part where they’re villains on your audience

SO IF YOU LIKE THESE VILLAINS’ CHARACTERS, WANT REDEMPTION FOR THEM, ARE INTERESTED IN THEIR ARC/NARRATIVE, OR JUST THINK THEY’RE COOL BAD GUYS YOU’RE A NAZI APOLOGIST AND YOU LOVE LICKING FASCIST BOOTS: absolutely, from the bottom of my heart, 100% completely, fuck you :)))

To be clear: saying this character and organisation is styled after a fascist regime and has a recognisable fascist regime aesthetic is fine. Implying that makes them LITERALLY THE SAME AS NAZIS and people who like them NAZI APOLOGISTS is not.

Also, like, how patronising and infantilising can you be in your insults? You know that people doing meta and fic on this or that villain aren’t even the edgelords who appropriate fascist symbolism because they think it makes them look cool that are the most insensitive (or at risk of apologism) here?

Like, do you honestly think strolling around in Stormtrooper gear is the same as wearing an SS uniform? That wearing a morsmordre t-shirt is the same as wearing a Swastika? There’s a disconnect here, because they’re cartoon villains, and Nazis are NOT.

Nazis are real. They may have absurd and grandiose visions of world domination that seem as laughable as Voldemort strolling around barefoot in black silk, but they’re not harmless cartoons, and they have a real death count. The Death Eaters and the Empire and the First Order are fake organisations who haven’t actually killed anyone because killing a fictional character is not actual murder. Slaughtering the Jedi is not real genocide. Killing the Muggleborns is not the Holocaust. They’re meant to invoke the same tone of eugenics, racism, and fascism, but they are not one-to-one equals, because one advocates for the death of REAL HUMANS, and the others advocate for the death of people with magical powers, who aren’t just fictional, but an actual, literal impossibility under the laws of physics. Being a fan of Darth Sidious is not like Stanning Adolf Hitler. Darth Sidious shoots lighting out of his hands and hates the space druids with the blue and green laser swords. Hitler ran death camps.

Don’t fucking trivialise Nazis and their crimes against humanity by equating them to the fucking “dewit” wrinkle man or the guy who tried to eat a unicorn.

*casually throws this post back because it's relevant*

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Look-alike villains turned heroes who deserved better.

Hot take none of these men deserved better they all got redemption arcs and that’s literally all they’ve earned.

Snape? Ex wizard nazi who murdered people and was gonna let an infant get murdered because he didn’t get fucked and he was a racist and kinda an incel? Amazing character. Shitty human.

Loki: done dirty but not everybody who’s done dirty tried to be a mass murderer. Ok character, shitty human.

Kyle Ron? Killed his own dad. Not even hitler, just hitlers bitch boy. Incel as fuck. Did one nice thing the whole trilogy. Good character, shitty human.

Just the tea

How the fuck did you even get on my blog? Piss off. And use some other place than OP’s gifset to sermonise. Nobody who’s a fan of them needs your negativity.

Can we fucking PLEASE stop calling fictional characters Nazis when they don't literally support the National Socialist German Workers' Party, aka what Nazi literally means.

Hitler doesn't fucking exist in Star Wars, and Wizards gave all of two shits about WWII (which happened long after the advent of blood purity wars).

People who are Nazis: people who support Hitler/antisemitism/white supremacy.

People who are not Nazis: FICTIONAL MAGIC DICTATORS.

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Anonymous asked:

what disgusts me are the amount of people defending "FREAKS OF COLOR" as a "joke" or "if you're a poc and offended then you truly are a foc lol" and that anyone upset by it are a bad credit to their race and not really caring about the real issues (fictional porn and abuse)

Because these people do not actually care about real living people. They do not. They are lying, manipulative and ignorant people who don’t deserve good things.

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Let us not even goddamn mention what a horrific concept rife with respectability politics being “a discredit to your race” even is.

It’s screams Nazism and White Supremacy to me, and I wouldn’t doubt that anyone who is told this is being called a freak either. 

Trump: if you're Jewish and you didn't vote for me you're a disloyal Jew

Everyone: what the fuck

Antis: if you're poc and you ship this you're a bad poc and a freak

Everyone: still what the fuck dude

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if someone says “degenerate” there is a 93% chance they are a neo-nazi 

neo-nazi buzzwords:

  • referring to minorities as a dehumanised collective (i.e “the blacks” instead of “black people”, “the jews” instead of “jewish people”, “the gays”, “the illegals” etc. etc.)
  • “cuck” “normie” “liberal snowflake”
  • “deus vult my friends”
  • “Is he /our guy/ ?” or any variation of the /our guy/ meme
  • “red-pill” or “alt-right” (in regards to someone’s political stance)
  • holocaust denial in any way shape or form (from flat out it didn’t happen to any kind of attempt to minimise/normalise the crimes of the nazis through spreading false facts or making jokes about it)
  • using the concept of triggers in a comedic way  
  • talking about “alpha” and “beta” males
  • “anti-racism = anti-white” / “this is anti-white propaganda” / “white pride worldwide” 
  • “multiculturalism = white genocide”
  • “islamization of america/europe”, “eurabia”
  • glorious (when applied to a political figure or nation)
  • 14/88, “the 14 words”, or any variation of them
  • symbols: the celtic cross, the two lightning bolts side to side, obviously the swastika and all of its variations (here is a link to the anti-defamation league’s comprehensive guide to identifying hate symbols)
  • “im a race realist”
  • talking about cultural marxism as if it’s an actual thing 
  • “preserving the future for white children” (anything that evokes images of white children being in need of saving from the imagined threat of white genocide)
  • “why are only white countries asked to be multi-cultural” ignoring the overwhelming presence of white people in the americas, oceania and south africa 
  • citing false statistics about difference in IQ amongst ethnic groups

neo-nazis are currently on a campaign to rebrand and repackage themselves to win over more mainstream support. this has resulted in the emergence of the “alt-right” as a legitimate political body, to push back against neo-nazism we have to identify it where we see it. if you see someone online using any of the terminology listed above there is a good chance that they are part of the burgeoning group of white supremacist who are using online platforms and cloaked language to disperse their hatred to a wider audience. be aware and be vigilant. 

side note: incase the neo-nazis on this site co-opt this post and turn it into a “tag urself” of some sort im gonna pre-emptively say, with all my heart, i hope you choke 

I agree with this

Also the echos or three () around someone’s name

  • “bring back traditional gender roles”
  • an aesthetic blog/instagram/whatever that is just white women, particularly if they’re wearing an obscured necklace or t-shirt or they’re wearing European regalia
  • “reject modernity” or anything else that implies that modern society is “degraded” and that we need to “return” to a “purer” form
  • referring to white Europeans as native or indigenous
  • a woman who identifies as a “tradfem” (traditional female)
  • the phrase “blood and soil”, an explicit Nationalist phrase from Nazi Germany

Many of the things I listed are mainly used by white supremacist women. Many of those women are trying to make a break on tumblr using the new cottagecore and environmental aesthetic trends, posting pretty pictures of pies and nature and chickens and scattering Nationalist dog whistles as they do so. It is extremely important that we learn to recognize the stealthier forms that Nationalism comes in, especially when those forms seem so pleasant and innocent.

images of a stealth white supremacist blog under the cut to use as an example

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Not only is Snape not a nazi, Voldemort isn't one either. The death eaters weren't nazis! Not all violent racists are nazis, for god's sake, why are people so dumb? Nazism is a specific ideology!

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Nazism: supporting Hitler's vision of an Aryan nation made up of entirely pure, abled, cishet white people/wanting all outliers to that exterminated or selectively bred out of the population, especially and specifically people of Jewish descent

Racism: a system of inequality/a form of prejudice based on one's ethnicity/skin colour

Fascism: an authoritarian ideology that supports dictatorships that, often in the name of "order", rule their people without giving them basic human freedoms, unquestioningly nationalistic, preach obedience and purity to some arbitrary norm, usually clearly has an "outgroup of undesirables" to scapegoat

Nazis are fascists and racists. But not every racist is a Nazi. And not every fascist is aiming to be Nazi Germany.

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To get on a rant for a second, I’m legitimately so angered as a Jewish person at the prevalence of “X fictional group or character is clearly a Nazi!” at characters that are not, in fact, members or supporters of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party/exterminating the Jewish population. Seriously, you may think you’re helping us out, but your “Kylo Ren and the First Order are literally Nazis! And liking them makes you a Nazi!”, “if you like any Death Eaters, you’re a Nazi apologist!”, “fans of X fictional oppressive regime’s characters are all promoting Nazism!” takes are not hot, and completely misinterpret Nazism and why it’s so insidious. To equate an ideology that killed millions of my relatives with Karen writing Kylo x Reader smut, to equate the suffering of so many human beings with “xxXSlytherinBabyXxx”’s Snape whump H/C fic doesn’t just trivialise Nazism, it’s outright fucking insulting (both to me and to fans who aren’t Jewish) and you seriously need to stop. I’ve not yet even touched on how patronising it is for goyim to tell Jewish fans they’re Nazis/Nazi sympathisers for writing villain redemption arcs, or for writing villains at all, because that would take all day! Using Nazi aesthetic parallels to make your fictional evil dictatorship seem more imposing is not the same as actually making them fucking Nazis.

End rant.

*comes back a year later*

Pointing out how many fictional dictatorships/fascist regimes are styled in the way of their real world counterparts, talking about how characters can be coded as obvious fascists/authoritarians, talking about how the Empire from SW is clearly using an obviously WWII Nazi Germany aesthetic, how the Death Eaters wear hooded robes and are obviously the magic version of white supremacists: fine, valid, I'm with you there, Nazis are vile human beings so making your villains look like Nazis is an easy way to imprint the whole part where they're villains on your audience

SO IF YOU LIKE THESE VILLAINS' CHARACTERS, WANT REDEMPTION FOR THEM, ARE INTERESTED IN THEIR ARC/NARRATIVE, OR JUST THINK THEY'RE COOL BAD GUYS YOU'RE A NAZI APOLOGIST AND YOU LOVE LICKING FASCIST BOOTS: absolutely, from the bottom of my heart, 100% completely, fuck you :)))

To be clear: saying this character and organisation is styled after a fascist regime and has a recognisable fascist regime aesthetic is fine. Implying that makes them LITERALLY THE SAME AS NAZIS and people who like them NAZI APOLOGISTS is not.

Also, like, how patronising and infantilising can you be in your insults? You know that people doing meta and fic on this or that villain aren't even the edgelords who appropriate fascist symbolism because they think it makes them look cool that are the most insensitive (or at risk of apologism) here?

Like, do you honestly think strolling around in Stormtrooper gear is the same as wearing an SS uniform? That wearing a morsmordre t-shirt is the same as wearing a Swastika? There's a disconnect here, because they're cartoon villains, and Nazis are NOT.

Nazis are real. They may have absurd and grandiose visions of world domination that seem as laughable as Voldemort strolling around barefoot in black silk, but they're not harmless cartoons, and they have a real death count. The Death Eaters and the Empire and the First Order are fake organisations who haven't actually killed anyone because killing a fictional character is not actual murder. Slaughtering the Jedi is not real genocide. Killing the Muggleborns is not the Holocaust. They're meant to invoke the same tone of eugenics, racism, and fascism, but they are not one-to-one equals, because one advocates for the death of REAL HUMANS, and the others advocate for the death of people with magical powers, who aren't just fictional, but an actual, literal impossibility under the laws of physics. Being a fan of Darth Sidious is not like Stanning Adolf Hitler. Darth Sidious shoots lighting out of his hands and hates the space druids with the blue and green laser swords. Hitler ran death camps.

Don't fucking trivialise Nazis and their crimes against humanity by equating them to the fucking "dewit" wrinkle man or the guy who tried to eat a unicorn.

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Anonymous asked:

Antis be out here swallowing antisemitic smear campaigns hook line and sinker. I was following roach when this wank started getting spread around. The cause? A dude who was WAY too into Nazi imagery hating that a queer Jew was suggesting people donate to a Holocaust memorial after marvel comics decided to make captain America a nazi

Yeah, but are we even surprised anymore? Look at what happened with @antis-delete-your-blogs-pls-thx, antisemitism for days.

Someone also commented roach is a trans dude, so the transphobia claim is suspicious (trans people can be transphobic too, yeah, but just saying "they're transphobic" doesn't prove much). If anyone knows more about it, feel free to comment. Could just ask roach themself too.

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I haven't even gotten the worst of it! Khryso, Hazel, and WWP have been subject to smear campaigns as well, and Khryso got the fucking horrific message that sounded like word-for-word the type of shit you'd expect from an SS officer. Where is it...

Tw for racial slurs and being a fucking Nazi:

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Anonymous asked:

its rly not ur place as a white person to tell people of color what jokes they can and cant make about their oppression i rly hope you can realize that

This is the joke, tw for racism ofc:

You can see how this is a white supremacy joke, yes? 3robots jokes that all people should be white. White supremacists are neo nazis, yes? We can agree on this?

And that besides the group chat, there is nothing in the tags or elsewhere that indicates this is a joke? And that this public post could therefore be found by neonazis and validate and reinforce their beliefs?

And that I, AS A JEWISH PERSON, do not want that to happen because neo nazis...

WANT ME DEAD???

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hey can you help me find your brain cells i think you might’ve lost them and i wanna help you look

You know that the more you deny this the more antisemitic you seem right

bro whAT

You and your friends denying that trivialising and reinforcing Nazi rhetoric affects Jewish people is getting very close to being antisemitism

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Reminder: someone else having hateful opinions doesn't give you an excuse to harass them

Translation:

Please don’t let horrible people face any consequences for what they say! Their opinions are more valuable than yours!” uwu

Eat shit and die.

People who have hateful opinions don't deserve the luxury of speech

Mmmm, that's not how human rights work. Not that someone waving around the hammer and sickle would know that, I suppose.

People who vie for my murder and genocide of my people just for existing? They deserve to gain power and spew their vile rhetoric? So even though we've seen where that path leads, you're willing to redo the mistakes of the pasts because "UwU let's all get along, Jews and Nazis can live together!!!" Shut the fuck up

Hey asshole! My grandmother was Romani and she said violence was never the answer. Educate people, but only act in self defense if someone attacks you. Because "If you raise your hand first, you just give them leverage."

Meaning my grandmother, who escaped from Auschwitz, wouldn't want you to harass someone or abuse them. Because she's seen what violence can do and doesn't want the blame laid on hers - or anyone else's - doorstep. You just give those people more power against you.

You know the Jews of Germany tried talking to the Nazis? They tried to tell them they were wrong, they believed Hitler wasn't actually thattt crazy to kill an entire group of people, right? And yes, I had family die too, my great great grandmother was a Croatian Jew, she watched her 12 year old daughter get raped and beaten by Nazi and ustasa soldiers, my great great grandfather was from a Jewish Ukrainian family, he watched his brothers , sister, and father die at the hands of the Nazis, he left when he was 16 to fight the Nazis and defend his home. When it comes to Nazis there is no peaceful option, it is a fight for survival, and to sit back and talk is to invite death to your door, you have to fight at every turn to stamp out Nazism, otherwise there will be a price to pay, a price weighed by the bodies of 17 million women, men, and children.

Nazis are the perfect argument for self-defence. They're why I have very unpopular opinions on why the 2nd amendment is fundamentally necessary. And they SHOULD feel scared, they should feel that acting on their beliefs will get them a group of very angry people who refuse to have let their ancestors suffer and die for nothing. If a Nazi tries to take me to a camp for my blood ancestry, I will be the first to make them stare down the barrel of a gun.

But attacking them first will escalate a situation that can still be deescalated. And violence is a cycle. Right now, people can still be deradicalised. Right now, their words can be combatted with education. Right now is not the middle of a goddamn warzone.

There's a difference between telling someone they're a hateful, ignorant person who's making excuses for mass genocide and abusing them. Abusing violent people does not make them less violent.

It'd be great if y'all tagged trigger warnings on posts.

My bad. Working on that now.

Btw don't even bother with georgy

They're a dumbass motherfucker

Of course a Tankie would apologise for mainland China! I am so unsurprised.

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Reminder: someone else having hateful opinions doesn't give you an excuse to harass them

Translation:

Please don’t let horrible people face any consequences for what they say! Their opinions are more valuable than yours!” uwu

Eat shit and die.

People who have hateful opinions don't deserve the luxury of speech

Mmmm, that's not how human rights work. Not that someone waving around the hammer and sickle would know that, I suppose.

People who vie for my murder and genocide of my people just for existing? They deserve to gain power and spew their vile rhetoric? So even though we've seen where that path leads, you're willing to redo the mistakes of the pasts because "UwU let's all get along, Jews and Nazis can live together!!!" Shut the fuck up

Hey asshole! My grandmother was Romani and she said violence was never the answer. Educate people, but only act in self defense if someone attacks you. Because "If you raise your hand first, you just give them leverage."

Meaning my grandmother, who escaped from Auschwitz, wouldn't want you to harass someone or abuse them. Because she's seen what violence can do and doesn't want the blame laid on hers - or anyone else's - doorstep. You just give those people more power against you.

You know the Jews of Germany tried talking to the Nazis? They tried to tell them they were wrong, they believed Hitler wasn't actually thattt crazy to kill an entire group of people, right? And yes, I had family die too, my great great grandmother was a Croatian Jew, she watched her 12 year old daughter get raped and beaten by Nazi and ustasa soldiers, my great great grandfather was from a Jewish Ukrainian family, he watched his brothers , sister, and father die at the hands of the Nazis, he left when he was 16 to fight the Nazis and defend his home. When it comes to Nazis there is no peaceful option, it is a fight for survival, and to sit back and talk is to invite death to your door, you have to fight at every turn to stamp out Nazism, otherwise there will be a price to pay, a price weighed by the bodies of 17 million women, men, and children.

Nazis are the perfect argument for self-defence. They're why I have very unpopular opinions on why the 2nd amendment is fundamentally necessary. And they SHOULD feel scared, they should feel that acting on their beliefs will get them a group of very angry people who refuse to have let their ancestors suffer and die for nothing. If a Nazi tries to take me to a camp for my blood ancestry, I will be the first to make them stare down the barrel of a gun.

But attacking them first will escalate a situation that can still be deescalated. And violence is a cycle. Right now, people can still be deradicalised. Right now, their words can be combatted with education. Right now is not the middle of a goddamn warzone.

There's a difference between telling someone they're a hateful, ignorant person who's making excuses for mass genocide and abusing them. Abusing violent people does not make them less violent.

It'd be great if y'all tagged trigger warnings on posts.

My bad. Working on that now.

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Reminder: someone else having hateful opinions doesn't give you an excuse to harass them

Translation:

Please don’t let horrible people face any consequences for what they say! Their opinions are more valuable than yours!” uwu

Eat shit and die.

People who have hateful opinions don't deserve the luxury of speech

Mmmm, that's not how human rights work. Not that someone waving around the hammer and sickle would know that, I suppose.

People who vie for my murder and genocide of my people just for existing? They deserve to gain power and spew their vile rhetoric? So even though we've seen where that path leads, you're willing to redo the mistakes of the pasts because "UwU let's all get along, Jews and Nazis can live together!!!" Shut the fuck up

Hey asshole! My grandmother was Romani and she said violence was never the answer. Educate people, but only act in self defense if someone attacks you. Because "If you raise your hand first, you just give them leverage."

Meaning my grandmother, who escaped from Auschwitz, wouldn't want you to harass someone or abuse them. Because she's seen what violence can do and doesn't want the blame laid on hers - or anyone else's - doorstep. You just give those people more power against you.

You know the Jews of Germany tried talking to the Nazis? They tried to tell them they were wrong, they believed Hitler wasn't actually thattt crazy to kill an entire group of people, right? And yes, I had family die too, my great great grandmother was a Croatian Jew, she watched her 12 year old daughter get raped and beaten by Nazi and ustasa soldiers, my great great grandfather was from a Jewish Ukrainian family, he watched his brothers , sister, and father die at the hands of the Nazis, he left when he was 16 to fight the Nazis and defend his home. When it comes to Nazis there is no peaceful option, it is a fight for survival, and to sit back and talk is to invite death to your door, you have to fight at every turn to stamp out Nazism, otherwise there will be a price to pay, a price weighed by the bodies of 17 million women, men, and children.

Nazis are the perfect argument for self-defence. They're why I have very unpopular opinions on why the 2nd amendment is fundamentally necessary. And they SHOULD feel scared, they should feel that acting on their beliefs will get them a group of very angry people who refuse to have let their ancestors suffer and die for nothing. If a Nazi tries to take me to a camp for my blood ancestry, I will be the first to make them stare down the barrel of a gun.

But attacking them first will escalate a situation that can still be deescalated. And violence is a cycle. Right now, people can still be deradicalised. Right now, their words can be combatted with education. Right now is not the middle of a goddamn warzone.

There's a difference between telling someone they're a hateful, ignorant person who's making excuses for mass genocide and abusing them. Abusing violent people does not make them less violent.

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Reminder: someone else having hateful opinions doesn't give you an excuse to harass them

Translation:

Please don’t let horrible people face any consequences for what they say! Their opinions are more valuable than yours!” uwu

Eat shit and die.

People who have hateful opinions don't deserve the luxury of speech

Mmmm, that's not how human rights work. Not that someone waving around the hammer and sickle would know that, I suppose.

People who vie for my murder and genocide of my people just for existing? They deserve to gain power and spew their vile rhetoric? So even though we've seen where that path leads, you're willing to redo the mistakes of the pasts because "UwU let's all get along, Jews and Nazis can live together!!!" Shut the fuck up

You know this post was about calling a Latina woman a racial slur for her ignorant and bigoted opinions on the queer community, right?

Not Nazis?

Fucking read the context and background of posts before jumping on them. I'm Jewish myself, not a Nazi apologist. This post had nothing to do with "actually nobody should tell Nazis that they're pieces of shit".

I'mma harass people who have hateful opinions

You're just making it worse for the rest of us.

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Reminder: someone else having hateful opinions doesn't give you an excuse to harass them

Translation:

Please don’t let horrible people face any consequences for what they say! Their opinions are more valuable than yours!” uwu

Eat shit and die.

People who have hateful opinions don't deserve the luxury of speech

Mmmm, that's not how human rights work. Not that someone waving around the hammer and sickle would know that, I suppose.

People who vie for my murder and genocide of my people just for existing? They deserve to gain power and spew their vile rhetoric? So even though we've seen where that path leads, you're willing to redo the mistakes of the pasts because "UwU let's all get along, Jews and Nazis can live together!!!" Shut the fuck up

Hey asshole! My grandmother was Romani and she said violence was never the answer. Educate people, but only act in self defense if someone attacks you. Because "If you raise your hand first, you just give them leverage."

Meaning my grandmother, who escaped from Auschwitz, wouldn't want you to harass someone or abuse them. Because she's seen what violence can do and doesn't want the blame laid on hers - or anyone else's - doorstep. You just give those people more power against you.

You're right, of course. But I doubt a Tankie is going to listen to someone telling them not to encourage shitting on human rights.

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Reminder: someone else having hateful opinions doesn't give you an excuse to harass them

Translation:

Please don’t let horrible people face any consequences for what they say! Their opinions are more valuable than yours!” uwu

Eat shit and die.

People who have hateful opinions don't deserve the luxury of speech

Mmmm, that's not how human rights work. Not that someone waving around the hammer and sickle would know that, I suppose.

People who vie for my murder and genocide of my people just for existing? They deserve to gain power and spew their vile rhetoric? So even though we've seen where that path leads, you're willing to redo the mistakes of the pasts because "UwU let's all get along, Jews and Nazis can live together!!!" Shut the fuck up

You know this post was about calling a Latina woman a racial slur for her ignorant and bigoted opinions on the queer community, right?

Not Nazis?

Fucking read the context and background of posts before jumping on them. I'm Jewish myself, not a Nazi apologist. This post had nothing to do with "actually nobody should tell Nazis that they're pieces of shit".

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At the risk of all my credibility as a person being thrown out the window because I genuinely enjoy Steven Universe, I need to say this.

The military in Steven universe doesn’t represent nazis. Genocide literally isn’t the theme of this children’s show. The only overarching theme related to actual militia is War Is Bad.

SU is about breaking cycles of abuse, not pulling yourself in a million directions to please those around you, and making your purpose in life to make yourself happy and surround yourself with supportive people who love you. It’s also about being critical of those you love, and sometimes supporting them while they actively try to change and grow from their pst mistakes.

Life on other planets being destroyed isn’t meant to represent some kind of active genocide. It’s individuality being stretched and worn out until only what the abuser (the diamonds, more specifically white diamond) wants to see and hear is left.

Steven isn’t some kid that wants to be buddy buddy with dictators, he’s a child that sees how his mother was beaten down and abused and wants to mend the bond with his family that couldn’t be fixed before new perspectives were brought into play.

Blue Diamond is a parent who swears she’s doing right by her child because tough love (emotional abuse) is necessary to protect them, Yellow Diamond is a parent who is afraid of anything out of the “ordinary” being a sign of her failure and so treats her child unjustly and gets physically abusive in order to “fix” the problem, White Diamond wants a clean slate, someone who will do and act as she says because of her own inferiority complex and the need for everything to always be perfect. These are all people that children & teens & adults have to deal with, and the biggest arc on the show being Steven demanding that everyone be treated as an individual deserving of love and growth is such a huge thing to show on television.

What widespread kids show have you ever seen so clearly outline abusive behaviors and the thoughts and feelings behind both victim and abuser? How many people do you think have been forced to realize they can and should be treated better, and maybe their own treatment of the people they love has been warped by their own abuse?

If you look at the show through this lense of healing and doing better by children, rather than the popular “Diamonds are Nazis” lense, the show is chock full of messages of self love, distancing your emotions not being a solution to every issue, and other related things.

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One of the criticisms I often see thrown at Steven Universe is that it’s a narrative where abuse victims forgive their abusers and that’s unfair, but, like. From where I’m standing? A story where someone was able to stand up in front of the people who hurt (him, his mom, his caretakers, his friends, thousands and thousands and thousands of people he never met but who were connected to him in some way or another) and saying “You messed up, you hurt me, do better” and then having them fucking listen?

You know what happens if I try to talk to my parents about how fucked up I am as a direct result of my upbringing? If I try to make them see how badly they’ve hurt me? Not even through abuse, just really bad decision making and not realizing that they were hurting me in the long run?

I get told I don’t know how good I’ve got it

I get told it’s everyone else’s fault

I get told it’s my other parent’s fault

And I can’t even push because I haven’t yet saved up enough to move and am still dependent on them, I am literally making plans to move to the other side of the country because I can’t bear to be around them much longer.

So, like, Steven didn’t “forgive” his abusers, he stood up in front of them and demanded that they do better, to fix their mistakes, and then gave them a chance to, and they took it. They listened. And that was absurdly cathartic from where I was standing.

It’s not necessarily the narrative that a lot of people wanted, and that’s okay! Not every narrative is going to be the narrative someone wants. But god that doesn’t mean it wasn’t a powerful one.

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