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she/her A blog dedicated to overanalyzing TVDU, but mostly the Mikaelsons, mostly Elijah Mikaelson I post pictures, gifs, updates on my fics, and my opinions on the show.
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updated December 22, 2023

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𝙎𝙚𝙧𝙞𝙚𝙨: 𝙇𝙤𝙣𝙜 𝙇𝙞𝙫𝙚 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙈𝙞𝙠𝙖𝙚𝙡𝙨𝙤𝙣𝙨

Book 1: The Great War »» Complete (AO3 & Wattpad) 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐬𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐠𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐟. 𝐈𝐧 𝐟𝐚𝐜𝐭, 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐨𝐟𝐭𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐭𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐨𝐰𝐧. Humans reveled in the idea of immortality, but those who possessed it were all too aware of the horrors it brought with it. Throughout his long life, Elijah Mikaelson had lost countless people he cared about and at some point, he just stopped caring about anyone outside of his family. So when his brother betrayed him, he was left utterly alone. That is until his best friend returned.

Book 2: I Know Places »» ongoing (AO3 & Wattpad) 𝐏𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐚𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐬 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐞𝐱𝐢𝐬𝐭 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐲. 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐚𝐞𝐥𝐬𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐬𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐚 𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐬 𝐞𝐧𝐬𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐱 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐚𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐬. 𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐩𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐲. Astra and Elijah believed all they had to do was survive the year long prophecy and their family would finally be safe. However, given their family's propensity to make enemies everywhere they turn, that was beginning to seem unlikely. With Klaus being held captive and Elijah being forcibly separated from his family, it was only a matter of time before their lives were once again in jeopardy. ►The Great War Outtakes »» ongoing (AO3 & Wattpad) While Astra and Elijah are on their own adventures taking place in The Great War, the Mikaelsons continue their lives in the French Quarter. Basically, The Great War is getting far too long and there are so many side stories I want to tell. ►Prequel: You're On Your Own, Kid »» ongoing (AO3 & Wattpad) 1035 years before the birth of Hope Mikaelson, her family arrived on the shores of Vinland. With the werewolves to the north and witches to the south, Esther and Mikael had no idea what awaited their family in the new world. Elijah, Niklaus, and Rebekah find themselves growing up in a village on the brink of a supernatural war.

𝙁𝙞𝙭-𝙄𝙩-𝙁𝙞𝙘𝙨 (𝙎𝙩𝙖𝙣𝙙𝙖𝙡𝙤𝙣𝙚 𝙎𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙞𝙚𝙨):

The Last Sacrifice »» Complete (AO3 & Wattpad) The Hollow had taken so much from them already. Elijah was determined it would not take any more from his family. Alternate ending to Season 4 -- how I believe it should have ended if the writers had stuck closer to certain character traits. ►Don't It Just Break Your Heart »» Complete (AO3 & Wattpad) The Mikaelsons are the strongest creatures that roam the earth and they would stop at nothing to protect their family. Alternate ending to Season 5 -- how it could have ended if the creators weren't rushing to kill off all of our faves just to make Legacies. ►Come Home »» ongoing (AO3 & Wattpad) Elijah doesn't remember his past but he knows of the atrocities of the Mikaelsons. So he's considerably surprised to receive a letter from a woman he had briefly met in France postmarked from New Orleans, the city of the Original family. Alternate ending to Season 5 -- how it could have happened if Elijah received Hayley's letter while she was still alive.

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The Monster Within »» Complete Hayley seeks Elijah's comfort after a run in with some monsters, only to uncover long buried memories that Elijah would prefer to forget.

Mischief and Monopoly »» Complete Hayley, Elijah, Klaus, and Cami pass the afternoon teaching Hope the complexities of Monopoly and playing games against her uncle.

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Anonymous asked:

What filler episode type of storylines and/or scenes would you have liked to see on TO?

Some of my favorite episodes are the Christmas episodes because, while they still have chaos in them, they also just give the Mikaelsons time to be a family.

They created a whole show to be based off a miracle baby and then we hardly got to see them raise this baby. I would have loved to see more holiday episodes. We didn't get to see any of Hope's first anythings. She just kind of grew up off screen.

I would have also loved just a couple of cute romantic episodes. The closest we get is Freelin's wedding and I couldn't even enjoy it since Hayley had literally just died.

I loved Elijah and Marcel bonding and would have loved to see more of their relationship, instead of the show tanking that. Or more of Rebekah learning about what she wanted in life. More of Hayley actually being an alpha.

Obviously just more haylijah. I don't even believe we see the first "I love you." I find it hard to believe they waited until Season 4. I would have loved to see more scenes of Hayley actually getting to feel her emotions in Season 2 and 3, rather than just pushing her into things.

Also would have loved more flashbacks. I wanted to see how the Strix were founded. Or Kol working with witches. Rebekah discovering she wanted to be a mother. Just anything to flesh out the characters more.

The show just really could have slowed down slightly and let emotions land. I felt like a lot of big moments fell flat because the characters didn't even get a chance to feel their emotions. They just shoved them down and moved onto the next thing.

Thanks for the ask!

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you had said a few times in your metas that Elijah taking after Dahlia than his parents was something that made Esther (and by extension Mikael) awkward and more distant with him. but why did it never extended to Kol?

Wouldn't his preference for witchcraft, especially the dark arts, mischievous, cunning and outgoing traits make him more comparable to Dahlia, than say Elijah's warmer and paternal nature?

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To me, it's the immediacy of it.

Elijah was born mere months after Dahlia took Freya away. The pain was still fresh for Esther. And then instead of the golden haired daughter, she got a dark haired boy who was calm and quiet, much like Dahlia. She hadn't even gotten the chance to mourn her daughter when they moved to an unknown land with unknown people and she had Elijah quickly after. Kol wasn't born for years after that. And he was born after Klaus, which, in Esther's own words, healed their family.

Esther was in a much better mental place when she had Kol. She had Klaus and Ansel and had settled into her place in the new world.

I also think Finn and Kol's hair darkened as they got older, just based on these two photos up top. Elijah appears to be the only one that grew up with that dark hair. Kol's hair as a kid was still brown, but not as dark.

But to your point about personality, I think Elijah reminded Esther more of Dahlia than Kol did. From what we can see, Dahlia was a parental figure to Esther, just as Elijah was to his siblings. Dahlia wasn't wild and reckless like Kol. Rather, she was willing to do anything for family and loyal to a fault. Kol is a lot more free-spirited and thrill seeking, while Dahlia didn't like that in Esther. Kol likely reminded Esther of a younger version of herself, while Elijah was the younger version of Dahlia.

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Anonymous asked:

How would you describe klaus’ ideal type?

(Ans: himself) JKJK

lmao, you nailed it.

I think there's also a weird dynamic of women who look like his mother/sister. But I think that's just funny more than true.

While I do think he tends to be attracted to a lot of characteristics in himself, I think he also tends to find people who balance him out.

He tends to be attracted to people with parental trauma like him, or at the very least familial trauma. That's the biggest way Klaus knows how to relate to a person, through his own trauma since it is the forefront of his character. I thought it was funny that Aurora wanted to make Cami seem broken so that Klaus would be less into her when in reality, I think it made him love her more. Klaus needed those he was attracted to to be at least a little broken.

All of the characters we see Klaus attracted to are stubborn and strong-willed. He enjoys the chase, but also when people are obsessed with him. He likes intelligent people who can challenge him. But his ideal is someone who is overly compassionate and can tolerate his bs.

A big ideal is someone who cares for his family. While Klaus doesn't show it in the best ways, he does love his family and wants someone who does as well. We saw how quickly he turned on Aurora when she betrayed Rebekah.

He also needs someone who is more calm then he is and with less of a temper. Two hot headed characters tend to burn out fast and quick.

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Anonymous asked:

How long do you think Hayley and Jackson would have lasted had he not died?

It's hard to say since the writers kind of changed Hayley a lot to accommodate Jackson.

A lot of their marital problems came from them just not knowing each other. They knew each other for less than six months before Hayley died and lost Hope and Jackson ran off to the woods. They didn't see each other for about six months. Then Jackson comes back and they get married within a month. We see Jackson wanting Hayley to put the pack first and abandon her connections to the Mikaelsons, while Hayley wants Jackson to live in the Quarter and help raise a Mikaelson. They also both went into the unifications with different intents. While Hayley does say she did it for herself, we know that's not entirely true. She never would have done it if not for Hope and the pack.

I think that is the fundamental issue with their marriage. To Hayley, it was a political alliance that could grow into more. To Jackson, he was already in love with a version of Hayley he had in his head. Hayley could never live up to the idea of Andrea and Hayley was already in love with another man so she couldn't fully love Jackson the way he wanted.

I do appreciate that Jackson begins to see his fault in the marriage right before his death. Before that, he would just give Hayley ultimatums and not admit any of the fault in their problems. It was up to Hayley to bend and change to make the marriage work. We see a bit of change in Jackson in the Christmas episode. I think Jackson may have been able to keep this up, but it didn't actually resolve anything. They never actually discussed their issues or resolved any of them.

All of this to say, I don't think they would have lasted much longer. For one, Jackson's death felt inevitable in the show. As I said in an earlier post, the writers viewed the werewolves as disposable. But had he not died, I can't see Hayley putting up with it for much longer. They softened her out a lot to fit with Jackson. The Hayley that stood up to Elijah in their relationship and demanded what she needed would not have tolerated Jackson forcing her to choose between family and pack. I don't think Jackson would ever have really let it go. They probably would have been together for a few more months. Jackson fleeing to the bayou whenever he got upset. But this would have worn on Hayley. Neither of them were actually happy together.

I also don't buy that they had to be together for the unification to work. Only that they had to be co-alphas. Jackson walked out multiple times and left for weeks at a time. So they were not living together as husband and wife. They could have separated and kept their pack. I also think if Jackson stepped down, the pack could maintain their power from following Hayley as an alpha. It is her pack and her powers after all.

Thanks for the ask!

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Anonymous asked:

Sorry if this is an intrusive ask, but I just saw your post about Elijah and Elena and this part stood out to me.

I have also seen the interview of DG talking about it and they honestly made me dislike him a little bit. I was not shocked when he announced his divorce given how he often spoke about the much younger women he worked with in interviews. He often projected his own thoughts on Elijah, even if it didn't fit the character.

I haven’t seen any solo cast interviews so I’m not sure which one you’re talking about here, but I never got the impression Daniel was talking badly/disrespectfully about his female coworkers. Do you maybe have a link to that? Not gonna lie I love Elijah and Daniel’s always seemed to me like a fun, chill guy whose coworkers adore so I’m shocked 😭

I'm answering this one quickly because I don't want any confusion! Sorry! I don't mean that he was disrespectful to his coworkers. Rather he was disrespectful to his wife. He would often talk about how attractive the (much younger) women he was working with were. Don't get me wrong, he spoke very highly of the women as well and I do love how much he advocated for them. Daniel is one of the few people on TO who really spoke out for Leah.

So it's not that he is disrespectful to the women on the show. But I just found it in bad taste given that he was married. For instance, this interview:

At 5:06, he makes a reference that Phoebe (Hayley) is far to beautiful to end up with him in real life. Quickly realizes his mistake and compliments his wife. But, to me, he just spends so much his early interviews talking about the physical appearances of his female costars. It is something he does less in later interviews. But again, I just found him talking about being attracted to, not the characters, but the actresses, incredibly disrespectful to his wife.

I just know if I was his wife, I wouldn't appreciate him using every interview to talk about being attracted to other women, and being so lucky to kiss them on set, while I was at home raising his kids.

Daniel Gillies is one of those guys who seems chill for a white, middle aged man. He's mostly fine, but talks too much and has some incredibly problematic takes. I wish we saw the same level of respect he seems to have for his new girlfriend applied to his wife.

Hope this helped clarify!

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Anonymous asked:

What are your opinions on Elena/Mikaelson ships (if you have any loll they could totally just not be your cup of tea)?

Personally, I think Elena and Elijah had an insane amount of chemistry on screen (DG even said that Elijah had feelings for Elena and wanted them to end up tgt). American Gothic and the letter he wrote her lives in my head rent-free.

I randomly stumbled upon a elena/klaus fic where Elena said something like "I gave you those golden eyes and I gave you those double fangs so don't think that they will scare me away" and that somehow just hit me so hard that I fell down the rabbit hole loll.

I also often daydream about the relationship Elena would have with Rebekah and Hayley if she ended up in TO and NOLA. No humanity elena could fit in with them as a badass trio.

Would love to hear your thoughts!

I personally don't prefer any of the TVD/TO cross over ships. Like I always say, this doesn't mean you can't ship them, they just aren't my preference.

I won't deny there was a lot of tension between Elijah and Elena. I have also seen the interview of DG talking about it and they honestly made me dislike him a little bit. I was not shocked when he announced his divorce given how he often spoke about the much younger women he worked with in interviews. He often projected his own thoughts on Elijah, even if it didn't fit the character.

EDIT: Clarifying what I mean about DG here. Not that he was disrespectful to his costars, rather I felt him speaking about being attracted to them as disrespectful to his wife.

I personally don't think Elijah was into Elena romantically, rather saw her as a doppelganger he could finally save. I don't particularly like the idea of a character being romantically invovled with ancestors. Elijah would have been around Tatia's child, and then romantically invovled with those children's descendants. It's just weird to me. At least with Elena, Stefan and Damon didn't even know Nadia existed until later. I know it's petty, but it's just weird to me. Maybe it's just because I've been writing about Elijah's involvement with Tatia's kid, but I can't shake it. Katherine was enough, Elijah being invovled with three doppelgangers is far too much for me.

I digress. I like to think Elijah isn't into "younger women." I know it's a joke, but Elena was an actual child when he met her, only 17 years old. Only a year or two older than Davina, who Elijah called a child. To me, Elijah saw her as a helpless teenager who's life was in jeopardy by his family. He had a third chance to save a doppelganger and he didn't want to let her down. But because of family, he did. Hence the letter. I won't deny the episode, American Gothic, and the letter could suggest more. But, on it's own, it also doesn't need to. I talk about Elena/Elijah more here.

I also just can't see Elena invovled with any of the Mikaelsons. Her Aunt died because of them. It may not have been Elijah, but any relationship with Elijah brings you into a relationship with Klaus. I get some people are into it, but it's just not my preference. Klaus tortured Elena. He killed her. He killed Jenna. He killed Bonnie. He nearly killed Caroline twice. He killed Tyler. He killed Carol. Etc. I don't see anyone moving on from that.

And then you have the whole, Elena helped kill Kol and Finn. That should have been a bigger deal. Elijah and Klaus wouldn't forgive that. But especially Rebekah. And lord only knows what Freya would do to Elena if she found out.

I also can't see Rebekah and Hayley in TO being friends with Elena. Humanity or not. With her humanity, Rebekah and Hayley would either be calling Elena out for judging them for their actions and call her a hypocrite. Or just be generally annoyed by her "good girl" act. Elena was not so different than Hayley or even Rebekah, willing to kill thousands of vampires through Kol, just to become human again. But she held herself out as if she was better than them. She could justify killing when it suited her just as the Mikaelsons did. No, they aren't exactly the same, but Rebekah and Hayley would call her out on that. Also, Rebekah killed her. Elena never really moved on from it.

Without her humanity, she may fit in. But the Mikaelsons would grow annoyed with her. Especially around Hope. Hayley would not let her anywhere near Hope without her humanity. The Mikaelsons were pretending to become better people, having a no humanity Elena around would almost be laughable because even actively trying to become a better person, they were still infinitely worse than Elena without her humanity.

The only person I would like to see Elena interact with would be Cami. Elena needs an incredible amount of therapy. Cami would have judged any of the Mikaelsons for what they did to the teenagers and would have encouraged Elena to run away from all of the vampires in her life.

This is why I just don't like TVD/TO ships. It requries the TVD character to become a much worse person. Like I said, I'll never tell people they can't ship it, but I just prefer my ships to bring out good aspects in each other.

Thanks for the ask!

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sorry for all the asks, i just like word vomiting thoughts on shows. this is about Legacies though so uh, sorry for spoilers

i really liked Hope and Landon especially in s1 and s2. the concept of Hope who's immortal and has all this death based trauma finding love with someone who is also unkillable was really appealing. and then s3 immediately depowered him and made him human. the minute we started seeing him figure out other powers besides resurrection, they take them away. it really bothered me.

and while i have many issues with s3 (mostly all the fake Landons and useless Ethan), there is something about Hope refusing to let him go after he died (wish it felt like the show wasn't punishing Hope for having sex) that did make sense to me. Her growing incredibly toxic in s3 does work me, i really like her stubborn refusal to let go especially since she's already lost several people that her moving heaven and earth to try and save him makes sense to me.

i just wish they hadn't totally fucked everything up elsewhere. the fake Landons were just annoying and the fact that real Landon doesn't appear until s4 where Hope kills him to kill Malivore is messy. i like their goodbye scene (though it's a shameless Buffy rip off). Hope turning her humanity off afterward? makes sense considering how bad she'd gotten in s3. and then the fucking humanity arc dragged out too long. i'm glad it was at least her family that brought it back but it took way too long. for context, Hope flips it at the end of 4x04 and turns in back on (after a really weird fight scene with herself that makes no sense and also looks bad considering this is the same universe that did doppelgängers just fine) in 4x15. the arc did not need to be 11 episodes. the only bits of no humanity arc i really liked was the road trip with clarke (he's such a flop villain but i do kinda like him) and the early lizzie & hope sire bond stuff before lizzie runs off with aurora. hope's humanity arc reminded me so much of elena's in that in dragged on too long and neither actress (with love to both of them) played it as bitchy monotony.

lastly on landon in s4, i hated it, i hate the limbo stuff so fucking much. alaric and necromancer being there felt like hell, they'd worn out their welcome (alaric should've died when hope beat him up, im sorry, and necromancer should've been gone post s2). the only bit i remotely like is landon getting closure with his mom. the rest was blue tinted filler in an already boring season.

anyway, im sorry if this tangented and made no sense. anyway guess my overall point is that legacies s1 and s2 are the only seasons i find pretty good start to finish. the other two are messes pretty equally.

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I will say one of my issues with Legacies is I prefer a closed world in my supernatural fandoms. Meaning, we have a set number of supernaturals and it can't vary much from that. TVD and TO do a good job with this. Yes, they add hybrids and heretics, but it's just a combination of what we already have, and it sort of makes sense. They even started to lose me when they introduced sirens and the devil, but again, they related it back to witches.

Legacies introducing phoenix and unicorns and everything else under the sun was just too much for me. But I do like the idea of Hope being with someone who could keep up with her, even just with mortality. She already lost so much and having someone she couldn't lose would be a comfort to her. I also could understand her becoming incredibly dependent on that. After all, she's a Mikaelson. They love their toxic, codependent relationships. A lot of this had to do with the fact that they were all immortal and could only count on each other living forever with them. So, again, it makes sense for Hope to develop this.

You lost me a little bit with the fake Landons, but I have heard Legacies is essentially a rip off of Buffy. I've also seen that the no humanity lasted far too long. I know everyone loves a heartless, badass woman, but it just makes me sad. Hope deserved better than a life where she felt the need to turn off her humanity at only, what, 18 years old? I've talked about how "no humanity" just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They claim it means no emotions, but then are showing they are annoyed or frustrated or angry, all emotions. It's basically just them not caring about consequences and making the worst possible decisions.

I also have no idea who Clark is. But I have seen people like Hope and Lizzie and were excited to see Aurora back.

The limbo thing I have heard about. I feel like the show just kept getting rid of the afterlife but then essentially bringing it back but calling it something else.

I think it's so interesting that you only like the first two seasons. So many people have told me I just have to get to the later seasons and it gets better in Season 4. Again, I think people just like Hope behaving like a knock-off-version of Klaus. Which is just not my cup of tea.

Thanks for explaining all of that. I don't mind spoilers since so many of my mutuals love Legacies so I've seen a lot of it through edits.

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the mechanics of killing klaus/the hollow in s5 are nonsense. ignoring the white oak stake they pulled out of their ass, in s4 Davina says that only Labonairs can harm the Hollow (ie Hayley and Hope) and whenever a body the Hollow possesses dies, she just body hops. so in s5 Klaus staking himself made no sense. If we follow logic, the Hollow would just find a new body. The only way this could've made logistical sense to me was either

  1. Hayley takes the Hollow and dies for Hope
  2. Hope is the one to stake Klaus if Hayley's still dead in this s5

In situation 2, a Labonair is still the one to kill the Hollow/it's host which follows s4 rules.

you know what, i wish option 2 had happened

also sidetone on the mechanics of Klaus dying, why pull the white oak stake out of your ass when Marcel's venom is still around. Just say Klaus has a vial he keeps around for nefarious purposes. that would make sense and wouldn't make me want to bang my head against a wall

sorry for this, i was watching Friendly Space Ninja's video on TO and he mentioned the Labonair stuff and how Klaus' death didn't make sense.

whoever wrote how they killed Klaus was an idiot and forgot several bits of lore.

also, i finished the Great War and man i loved it! Cami marrying Klaus to link herself to him? genius. i didnt see Jackson and Hayley divorcing and the scene where she asks Klaus to compel her feelings for Elijah away genuinely made me emotional (and also want to strangle Jackson). Rebekah and baby Henry was unexpected yet delightful. yay for Freelin not having a cursed beginning (why does this universe love giving weird/messy couples happy endings but not the healthy ones). very excited for the sequel.

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First of all, thank you for reading TGW! I love hearing feedback and I'm so glad you've enjoyed it. I really wanted to give the characters more closure and happier (if not just as angsty) storylines. I can't wait to start posting the sequel!

But yes, Season 5 was an absolute mess for so many reasons, but mainly because the writing was just so bad. I know they lost their main producer and JP had to take over. I don't think she cared to follow the show's own lore. She just wanted to end it quickly and dramatically. If you read my story, Don't It Just Break Your Heart, I don't fully resolve all of the issues, but I do discuss how it wouldn't make sense for Klaus and Elijah to die with the Hollow. We saw other characters get killed with the Hollow inside and she just comes back, it doesn't kill her. They completely dropped the Labonair connection in Season 5 which was such a pivotal point in Season 4. Simply killing her on the one plane didn't solve anything as she just ended up back on the ancestral plane and come back.

Also, yes, where did that stake come from? Freya searched for any trace of the white oak in season 3 and only came up with the one bullet. How did she not find the one that Klaus kept hidden? Why would Klaus keep a stake that could kill him and his family hidden? None of that made sense. Like you pointed out, there was still a way to kill him, Marcel's venom. It would be kind of iconic for Klaus to be killed by both of his children -- Hope doing it to kill the Hollow but using Marcel's venom.

Very little about Season 5 made any sense. It was all just for rating and to launch Legacies.

Thanks for the ask!

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Anonymous asked:

Thoughts on ripper Stefan?

Being a "ripper" was an interesting way to explain why Stefan couldn't drink blood. It wasn't just a preference that he could compromise on, but a illness that he could never escape.

I wish they would have handled it better in a lot of cases. Like I said, they related it to a mental illness, even showing it was hereditary. You have characters like Damon telling Stefan it was all in his head and he just had to try harder. And in reality, that's how a lot of people treat mental illness. Even to the extent that, instead of trying to help, Stefan is blamed for it.

At no point in the show do we see Stefan willingly become a ripper. He was when he first turned, but he didn't even know what that meant. Lexi helped him get it under control, and while he slipped up at times, it was never because he enjoyed it. He had to turn off his humanity to even deal with his slip ups. In TVD, he only becomes one when forced by Klaus or then by Caroline.

People often want Stefan being a ripper to absolve or condemn him, but it's more complicated. Just as mental illness is more complicated. While a person is still accountable for their actions, it can't be ignored that their actions are coming from a place of illness. As I said, Stefan doesn't willingly ever become a ripper, that we see. He actively does everything to avoid it. It would be different if Stefan knew he was a ripper and then chose to "fall off the wagon." Rather, we see him struggling with this illness. Yes, at times he does push it on others, but it's coming from a place of attempting to manage his own.

Again, it doesn't mean we can't hold him accountable, but we also have to acknowledge his struggles against being a ripper.

I would have liked the show to go into the history of rippers more. I've seen people say that Elijah or Kol were the original rippers, but that's just not true. It would have been interesting to see though if it was more prevalent in one of their sire lines than the others. Or even just see more rippers than just Lily and Stefan.

Thanks for the ask!

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Anonymous asked:

Kinda random, but what did you think of Mason Lockwood?

I don't often think about Mason, but he is probably the best werewolf we met in TVD.

Mason had to go through the whole werewolf transformation by himself. As far as he knew, he was the only one. He eventually does find a pack who he creates a sense of family with. But he is still loyal to his blood family. He attempts to prevent Tyler from triggering the curse and we see just how painful it is for him to go through it every month. He was killed far too soon. He should have been able to be with Tyler as he transformed for the first time

I love that when he comes back from the otherside, he isn't there for revenge but to help Tyler. He felt guilty for being taken advantage of by Katherine and actually works to redeem himself, even on the otherside. I don't even think he needed to "redeem" himself. He was tricked by Katherine, but still didn't even trust her and hid the moonstone from her. He did everything he could to protect his pack and his family.

Mason is yet another example of how easily the show disregards the werewolves. Damon kills him and faces no repercussions. Just as Damon later kills Tyler and no one cares.

The TVD werewolves deserved better and Mason shouldn't have been killed. Or at the very least, they could have made a bigger deal about it. He actually seemed like a good guy. We know Tyler needed that in his life.

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Idk if you’ve ever spoke about this but in a world where Hope was raised by her family, how do you think she would’ve turned out as opposed to how she is in canon? Also what issues do you think she’d have - because no child raised by Klaus Mikaelson , let alone the rest of their family - would be without issues?

I've talked about this briefly, but never in depth.

But this brings up a nature v. nurture debate in me. I do think a lot of Hope is just who she is. But we can't deny how her life shapes her.

The first time in canon we ever get a sense of Hope's personality is when we meet her as a seven year old, who is being raised by Hayley alone. Hope is a gentle, sensitive, and caring girl. I do think that is the baseline for Hope.

However, if she had been raised with all of the Mikaelsons, I can't help but feel that she would be corrupted slightly. We met Marcel briefly as a child and he was also a sweet and caring child. However, the Mikaelsons made him like them. Marcel was still caring, but there was an edge to it. He was willing to starve and imprison his best friend for betraying him. He was willing to lock Davina, a child, up for his own gain. He was willing to unleash a horde of vampires on New Orleans to defeat his enemies (the Mikaelsons). He was willing to hurt those he claimed to love for power. Marcel became a Mikaelson through and through. The same thing would have happened to Hope.

Legacies, from what I've seen, loves to talk about Hope being Klaus' daughter, but in reality, canon Hope is Freya and Hayley's daughter. And not even the Freya we first met, but the Freya they turned her into after they killed Cami off. Being raised by them and feeling abandoned by the rest of her family really shaped who she became. For better or worse.

I also have trouble with this question because it depends what version of Klaus stuck around. We saw various different versions of Klaus as a father, but one thing was consistent is that he wasn't a very good father. He wanted to be, but let his fear and quest for power interfere. Even when he was around for Hope's life, we see him often handing Hope off to Freya or Elijah or Jackson and Hayley or just vaguely to the bayou.

But, for arguments sake, let's say he was actively invovled in raising Hope. He would spoil her and teach Hope that the world owed her everything. We would have seen a much more entitled Hope. She would still be caring underneath, but like Marcel would feel that she was owed more than she was given and do questionable things to get there.

I do think Elijah would try to temper this more, he saw what his hands off approach did to Kol, Klaus, and Rebekah. Elijah and Hayley would have had to be the disciplinarians, constantly fighting Klaus and his inability to actually parent. I would hope that we would still see Elijah realizing that the pressure he put on Hope as a baby was too much and he would be able to tell her that earlier than he did in canon.

We also wouldn't see Hope feeling the pressure the way she did because their wouldn't be the sacrifices. Hope's point system she kept was because she felt like she had to make the Mikaelsons' sacrifice worth it. That she had to be worth it. No sacrifice, no pressure. Even if Elijah didn't realize his mistake, there would be nothing telling Hope that it was her job to "save" Klaus.

This is good, but also would just feed into the entitlement with nothing to temper her out. Rebekah and Kol would also spoil her, encouraging her problematic behavior. Freya, even in canon, often viewed Hope as an adult rather than a child, letting her make decisions that she was too young to be making.

But the saving graces would be the in-laws and Hayley. We see Hayley really mature as a mother. Part of this is likely because she was doing it on her own, but I think she would still have this growth with the Mikaelsons, encouraging them to have their own growth. Cami would have forced Klaus to confront his issues that made him a questionable father and showed him how problematic his techniques of parenting were. Davina would have been one of Hope's biggest advocates, knowing how much pressure was on Hope. Same with Marcel. He knew how much the Mikaelsons broke him and he wouldn't let them do that to Hope. Keelin would also have pointed out all of their problematic behavior, never letting them get away with it.

Hope would have been similar to the Rebekah we met in TVD. Kind of a bratty teenager who has a good heart underneath it all. She would grow and mature and hopefully find her own footing outside of the Mikaelsons. She would also be less afraid of the "darkness" inside of her because there wouldn't be the lingering ghost of the Mikaelsons hanging over her. They would just be her family. Instead of learning of them from books and people who hated them, she would be able to form her own opinions. She would learn to embrace all parts of herself as she got older.

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so as you might know from our previous convos that the Salvatores brothers had a much more hostile relationship in the books, and unlike the show, LJ Smith didn't sugarcoat this with any co-dependency plot or family obligations that the show did to excuse why Stefan putting up with Damon.

Like, Stefan is completely justified by the narrative in wanting to be away from Damon, considering what he put him through over the centuries.

So, my question is if the show decided to go with that version of their relationship where they always hated eachother and committed mutual fratricide (with show!Katherine & her meddling), what do you think would have been different?

Do you think Stefan would have hesitated less in putting up with Damon and staking him after Lexi's death?

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Yes, and that's why the show made those changes.

I think they do a decent job of showing that Stefan is still justified in wanting to be away from Damon when they are first introduced. It's clear Damon only brings misery to Stefan's life. They were alive for over 175 years and spent most of that separated for a reason.

But I think the show also does a decent job of showing how complicated familial bonds are. People often argue that if someone is being abused, they should just leave. But it's a lot more complicated than that. Just because a family member hurts you, doesn't mean you stop loving them. Even if you should.

I haven't read the books, but I'll take your word for it that they are more hostile. And that works for the books. But it wouldn't work for the show that they wanted. I've talked about this with Caroline and Damon. Caroline's (and Stefan's) ability to forgive Damon is why the audience is able to. The show runners wanted Damon to be a "redeemable" character. If Damon did everything he did in Season 1 and Stefan was hostile towards Damon until the end of the show, he would be the antagonist. People may still like him and even root for him, but it wouldn't be as "justifiable. "

As you said, Stefan wouldn't have forgiven him for killing Lexi. Now in the show, they made it clear that Damon was stronger because he drank human blood, so Stefan wouldn't have been able to just stake him. But it wouldn't be the first time Stefan would have challenged someone stronger. I also think the show did a bad job of showing Stefan's reaction to Lexi's death. He was with Lexi for more of his life than Damon. She was his best friend and family. Damon killed her for really no reason and Stefan essentially just moves on. But again, the show didn't want the audience to linger on the anger too much. It was meant to shock and move on.

If the show was more like the book, the show would have turned into Stefan and Damon fighting each other over everything. I think that story would get old fast. The fact that they turned against each other for Katherine despite their strong bond in the show was meant to depict just how good Katherine was at manipulating them. She was able to wedge herself in even with their strong bond. If they hated each other throughout the show, they would obviously be easy to turn on each other. I could see Katherine using Damon's feelings for her, pretending she cared for him, to go after Elena in order to get Stefan back. That way she keeps her hands clean and can blame Damon, hoping Stefan would kill Damon and they could be together.

But again, it would be a quicker show.

It's really hard for a show to have two characters just hate each other the whole time. Even with the worst villains on TVDU, if they are on the show for more than half a season, they often found common ground with the protagonist. At some point Damon and Stefan would have had to resolve their issues, even if just temporarily.

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Little Red Riding Hood

October 31, 2013 – New Orleans, Louisiana

The bayou didn't need many decorations to invoke a spooky atmosphere for Halloween. The sun had begun to set and the fog had started rolling in from the water. But Hayley never felt afraid out there. These were her people, even when they didn't see eye to eye.

Which they definitely were not doing at this moment.

Hayley was carrying her daughter through the bayou who was dressed in a red and white checkered dress, white tights, and a red cape that sat on her tiny head. But the attention was not on them, but rather on the man who trailed behind her with an arrogant smirk on his face.

Klaus hadn't bothered to come down to the bayou since he had helped Dahlia put a curse on Hayley and by extension the entire pack. And it was clear they were all remembering this as he walked through the crowds as if he owned the place.

"Knock it off," Hayley hissed as Hope gripped onto the ties of her own red cape. She had never celebrated Halloween as her adoptive family didn't believe in the holiday. Hayley wanted Hope to have happy memories from every holiday she could manage. She would grow up with stories of trick-or-treating and ghost stories told around the bonfire. Hope would have photos to hang in her room of her family and all of the people who loved her. So Hayley happily donned her own red cloak so that her daughter could have as many photos as they could manage of her first Halloween with her mom.

Her father was another story.

He merely rolled his eyes at Hayley's scolding and continued to walk through the bayou, head high as if to challenge anyone who would dare cross him.

"I will not cower to this pathetic lot," Klaus nearly snarled back, clearly uncomfortable being out there. But he would never show it.

"I'm not asking you to," Hayley smiled for her daughter's benefit. "I'm asking you to stop walking around like an arrogant prick."

"That's just my face," Klaus smiled down at Hope, tickling her as he did to elicit a laugh. Hayley was not amused and simply glared at the attempt.

"We are in their home," Hayley took a deep breath, attempting to calm herself. "The last time you were here, it did not end well. You cannot blame them for being wary."

Klaus' only response was to roll his eyes and reach out for his daughter. Hope jumped from her mother's arms to her father and he walked off ahead of her, as if to remind the wolves who Hope's family truly was.

Hayley plastered a smile on her face and followed after the duo as he brought Hope up to Lisina who was gathering the children to begin the festivities. Hayley and Lisina had worked together to set up the activities, Lisina teaching Hayley all of the traditions she had missed out on.

She couldn't help but smile as Hope wiggled out of Klaus' arms to run to Lisina. In the short time they had known each other, Hope had taken a liking to the woman. But this time Hope seemed much more excited about the bowl of candy the wolf was holding. Even Klaus smiled at the pure excitement on their daughter's face.

"You have to say 'trick-or-treat', baby girl," Hayley instructed her daughter and laughed as she loudly proclaimed something moderately intelligible. It seemed to do the trick as Hope held up her basket and Lisina awarded her with a small piece of candy.

As soon as Hope ensured the candy was securely in her basket, she spun around and toddled over to her parents, nearly stumbling on the rough terrain.

"Careful, sweetheart," Klaus lowered himself so that he was level with his daughter and held out his arms to steady her. "What do you have there?"

Hope reached in and proudly held up her winnings, "Candy!"

Hayley laughed and knelt down with her daughter as Klaus held out his hand to unwrap it for her. Of course she knew that word. 

"Not too much candy," she wasn't sure who she was warning, Klaus or Hope. "We don't need a tummy ache."

One of the few things Hayley and Klaus seemed to agree on is Hope having healthy, home-cooked meals as much as possible. But Klaus was always the first to cave to Hope's sweet tooth.

Hayley leaned back, grabbing her phone to snap a picture of the scene, Klaus beaming down at their daughter while Hope slobbered over her candy.

"Give me your phone," Klaus held out his hand and Hayley immediately brought it to her chest.

"No," she narrowed her eyes. "Why?"

"What do you think I'm going to do?" Klaus snatched it from her anyway. "I promise I have no interest in reading your dull text with your husband."

Hayley didn't even think before smacking his arm hard but gasped as she heard her daughter's laughter. Another thing they had agreed on was no violence in front of Hope. She had seen enough in her short life and neither one of them wanted it to become commonplace.

"And I'm the violent one everyone is worried about corrupting her," Klaus smirked but directed Hope to go to her mother. Hope gladly obeyed and climbed into her mother's lap. Klaus made quick work of taking several photos. Especially when he told Hope to give her mother a kiss causing Hayley to grimace as her daughter's sticky, wet lips began covering her face.

"Nice," she pretended to glare at Klaus but it was perfect. This moment was what she had always wanted in a family. Even if they were not the most conventional family. Hope would never know what the pain they had known. She would never spend a holiday alone and hungry. She would never have to doubt the love her family had for her.

"Come on, my littlest red riding hood," Klaus held his hand out for his daughter. "We have many more wolves' homes to blow down."

"That's not the right story either," Hayley called after them but Klaus only responded with a quick wink as they made their way through the bayou. She shook her head and chased after them. If those two were left to their own devices, the bayou would be out of candy before any of the other children had a chance. 

Happy Halloween 🎃

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Anonymous asked:

Do you think Marcels bite could kill Hayley (or any hybrid for that matter) because his bite is wolf venom and white oak - the latter being the only reason its fatal to an original - i’ve always kind of wondered

No, I wouldn't think so. But who knows with the writers and their inconsistencies.

I don't believe we ever saw a werewolf bite a hybrid, but since hybrids seem to be immune to most ways that kill regular vampires, I wouldn't think Marcel's bite would kill them. There's nothing about Marcel's bite that should kill a normal hybrid.

As you said, his bite kills normal vampires because of the werewolf venom. It kills Originals because of the white oak. Davina was going to use it to kill Klaus. But not as a hybrid, rather as an Original. Just like using a white oak stake would still kill him. It can't be healed by Klaus because it is a combination of all of the werewolf packs. None of this would affect a hybrid, that we know of.

The lore would also suggest it would not kill a hybrid. The reason werewolf venom kills vampires is because when vampires were created, nature wanted to ensure werewolves had a defense against vampires. Just as it made vampires susceptible to vervain and sunlight, they could be weakened by werewolf venom. And of course, their sires could be killed by it, just as they could be killed by the sun when Originals couldn't. So it wouldn't make sense for a werewolf bite to be dangerous to its own kind. It would have been interesting to see the story continue (if the writers were better) to see if werewolves or vampires would begin to develop protections to the hybrids since they were new creatures. Just as werewolves developed venom to kill vampires. On the flipside, hybrids are almost like a defense against the new Upgraded Originals.

Although it is interesting that hybrids are weakened by both vervain and wolfsbane. But again, nature always wants a way to weaken these creatures.

Thanks for the ask!

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Anonymous asked:

I was reading the music ask your replied to recently. It’s funny but Elijah and I have the same taste in music more than the rest of the Mikaelson’s. I enjoy some of the artists mentioned that the rest of the Mikaelson’s like, but not as many as I did with him

I love that! I'll be honest, Elijah's music came straight from one of my playlists. Obviously all of the music is music that I'm familiar with, but Elijah's is what I listen to most regularly.

I'm glad you enjoyed the post <3

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For all the main TVDU ships, what ship do you think they’re most similar to in another movie/show?

I couldn’t think of a better way to word that, so I have no idea if that makes any sense. An example would be darvey in suits = chenford in the rookie

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This was kind of hard to think of, but I did my best.

Haylijah and Deckerstar (Lucifer)

I think this one goes without saying. Lucifer and Elijah have a lot of similar characteristics. They both are deeply problematic and do terrible things, but they don't want to be that person. While Hayley and Chloe are both intelligent, badass women who don't deal with other's bs. In both these ships, we have men who are used to getting what they want being challenged and they love it. I could definitely see Deckerstar being a AU of Haylijah.

Freelin and Kanej (Shadow and Bones)

Both these ships start out fairly problematic. Freya kidnaps and holds Keelin against her will, while Kaz essentially has to buy Inej and treats their relationship as nothing more than a contract. Both Kaz and Freya, because of their past trauma, are unable to allow themselves to truly be with the other, forcing Inej and Keelin to essentially give them an ultimatum. Both ships need each other despite how independent Kaz and Freya pretend to be.

Marbekah and Clace (Shadowhunters)

Not only do both ships have weird incestual undertones, but they both go through their ups and downs due to familial alliances. Jace and Rebekah for a while both struggled to find their footing in their romantic lives with their family (Klaus and Valentine) manipulating them away. They both have to learn to choose themselves and their loves over their family. It doesn't help that both of these ships' families are so entwined that it's hard to separate their relationships from their family drama.

Klamille and Clexa (The 100)

Both Klaus and Lexa both viewed themselves as rulers who thought love was a weakness. They were ready to go to war and kill anyone who stood in their way until a smart, blonde entered their lives. Cami and Clark are both from different worlds, Clark was from the "Sky People" and Cami the humans. Clark and Cami convince their significant others to see humanity in their people.

Kolvina and Supercorp (Supergirl)

Both ships meet with one of the partners concealing their true identity. Kol was hiding who he was to get close to Davina, while Kara was hiding that she was Supergirl to protect her identity. Despite Davina and Lena being hurt by the betrayal, they grow to understand it and still care for the other. While Kara and Kol both have the advantage of strength, Lena and Davina don't mess around when it comes to being protective. They may not have the physical strength, but it doesn't stop them from using their talents.

Jaiden and Malec (Shadowhunters)

Both ships started out as star-crossed lovers, Alec was sworn to fight demons like Magnus, while Aiden was taught not to trust vampires like Josh. Despite this, they have one of the purest ships in both shows. Them standing up for their love, despite people not fully accepting it, helps bridge the gaps between the factions.

Stelena and Bangel (Buffy)

You'll never convince me that Stelena wasn't based off of Bangel. Even how Stefan sees Elena and "just has to know her" is similar to Angel following Buffy to Sunnydale in order to protect her. Both Angel and Stefan battle their inner demons. They become monsters when they give into vampirism, but they are "cursed" with a soul that torments them. Elena takes on some Buffy characteristics when she begins to learn to fight vampires, but really it is her compassion and ability to see Stefan through his vampirism that makes them most similar.

Delena and Darklina (Shadow and Bones)

Of course, both these ships are enemies-to-lovers. Similar to Damon and Elena, the Darkling is the first person to make Alina feel seen with her powers. Or at least he makes her believe that, very much like Delena. The Darkling becomes a mentor to Alina, making her feel that he is the only one who can guide her, just as Damon, because of the sirebond, is the only one who can guide Elena through her transition. Both ships don't necessarily bring out the best in each other, rather they fall into the darkness together.

Bonenzo and Peraltiago (Brooklyn 99)

While these two shows are completely different genres, these two ships remind me of each other. You have the sensible, intelligent, badass woman who is used to having to take care of everything on her own and the goofy, charming, but intelligent man who will do everything for the woman they love. Enzo and Jake teach Bonnie and Amy that they don't need to be so independent. We get to see them finally be able to rely on someone in their life and it allows them to relax. They truly bring out such good sides of each other.

Steroline and Olicity (Arrow)

These ships are both friends-to-lovers, or more accurately, partners-in-crime-to-lovers. Both were incredibly slow, slow-burns that seemed to not be a possibility early in because of the canon source material. But they were each other's best friends. They trusted each other more than anyone. Oliver and Stefan struggled with their own darkness and Felicity and Caroline pulled them back.

Parkwood and Percabeth (Percy Jackson)

While Percy Jackson is still in the early seasons, if you've read the books, you know where it is headed. Parkwood even looks like the book version of Percabeth. But it's not just the looks. Liv is similar to Annabeth in the way she doesn't trust Percy at first. Percy has to prove himself to her. But once he does, Annabeth would never let anything happen to him. Liv is the same way with Tyler. The start was rough, but once she is loyal, that's it. Tyler, like Percy doesn't always come off like the most intelligent person, but he really is. He is loyal and brave and would do anything for those he loves. The ships are both based in trust and friendship.

Thanks for the ask! Let me know if I missed any ships <3

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