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Why are dragons for children and why can’t I identify with them?

I’ve seen more and more posts claiming that aces and aros have “stolen” dragons from children. That we’re corrupting dragons some how with our dirty a-spec ways and sexualizing a children’s toy, essentially.

Two things are assumed with this:

  1. That dragons inherently belong to children
  2. That a-spec individuals identifying with dragons somehow perverts the concept of dragons

I take great issue with the thought that dragons are for kids. Not just because they are, often, violent creatures that level cities and horde possessions. No, my issue is with the connotation that surrounds labeling something as “for kids.”

The connotation surrounding a “for” label are very simple. If you are not included in that label, it isn’t for you. If something is “for women,” the thought is that it isn’t for men too. If something is “for dogs,” it isn’t for people. And if something is “for kids,” it isn’t for adults.

Dragons being “for kids” is part of a larger issue. This idea stems from the larger marginalization of fantasy as a genre being “for kids.”

Ursula K. Le Guin says it best in Why are Americans Afraid of Dragons? This is a study of why adults (all around the world mostly in industrialized places but looked at from the American perspective here) distance themselves from fantasy as a genre and put it down as “for kids.”

Dragons shouldn’t be considered just for children. That stems from a larger issue and fantasy isn’t just for kids. Much of it is quite mature in content.

So, how are a-spec people that identify with dragons stealing them? The real question is, why are adults giving them to children in the first place? Dragons are an important part of so many cultures. They represent things spanning from evil and greed to benevolence, bringers of life and rain to protectors of women. Essentially all civilizations have some sort of dragon myth.

The dragon is such an interesting symbol, too. In so many myths, they kidnap virgins and a hero must rescue the maiden; he often then marries her and removes her maidenhood. Snakes often symbolize sex and sensuality (how many times have you seen a boa across a woman’s naked breasts, preserving her modesty but still suggesting sensuality? often with female singers) but dragons, connected with the concept of serpents, are complicated.

Dragons have this inherent sexuality implicated and what do they do? They kidnap and protect virgins, despite not being able to do anything with them.

A-spec people don’t need to “pervert” the dragon. They’ve always had a tumultuous relationship with sex. And I think it’s pretty understandable that an a-spec would look at these creatures, who have a connection to sex but also stand apart from it, that protect this concept of virginity (that can also be looked at as sexlessness, or a lack of sex), that can do nothing with their horde but still cherishes it… that a-spec people would look at this as see parallels. Make connections.

How is it wrong to associate with something? How is it perverse or theft or corrupting? Dragons are complicated multi faceted creatures.

So are the a-specs that identify with them.

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A knight in shining armor outsmarts the dragon and climbs to the highest tower, only the princess locked away at the top of the tower is… a lesbian.

“Oh thank god,” Thomas says, laying his helmet down. “Because I kept thinking on the climb up here that this was going to be a really awkward first meeting, and its stupid to expect you to fall in love with me just because I saved you.”

Lucinda gives him a surprised look. “You’re rather weird. Usually I get guys that demand I fall in love with them because they ‘saved’ me. Which by the way, you didn’t actually do.” She jabs a thumb towards the direction of the dragon. “She’s trained. I tell her to keep assholes away from me, but if I tell her to let you in, she won’t do anything to you.”

“Oh.” Well now he feels a bit better. “But um, the whole lesbian thing? I uh… god this is going to sound weird, but would you consider dating my sister if I brought her to you?”

Lucinda blinks, opens her mouth, and then shuts it. She finally settles on, “Is your sister cute?”

“Um, I don’t know? I mean to me she is, because she’s my sister. But um.”

“Describe her.”

“Red hair, freckles, five foot… two, I think? Likes to make dresses and pretty headdresses out of flowers, her favorite activity is scrapbooking. She’s nineteen and looking for a nice girl to settle down with.”

Lucinda admits, she sounds tempting. “Fine, I’ll meet her. But why are you acting as the go-between for your sister’s love life, exactly?”

Thomas grimaces. “Dad wants to marry her off, and she’s… kind of a lesbian too. Except dad thinks if he throws her at the right dick, she’ll suddenly want that, so… yeah.”

Lucinda cackles.  “Oh my god, you climbed a tower to wingman for your sister?”

“Um, yes?”

She stands, brushes her dress off. “I like you. Show me this cute little sister of yours. We’ll take the dragon - let’s see what that old man of yours thinks when a stolen princess shows up riding a dragon wanting to marry his daughter.”

“I think he’ll have a heart attack.”

“Even better. Now let’s move. Pudding, come!”

“You named your dragon Pudding?”

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nezclaw

“He named himself Pudding.”

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A huge and ancient dragon loses her clutch of eggs.  She decides to adopt an office building full of employees as her children.  But to keep them safe, she doesn’t want to let any of them leave.

“Mighty Opiess, Destroyer of Kingdoms, pl-”

“Mom.”

“Uhh…..right. Mom. Um, so I have to get back home. I’ve got three kids who need dinner and I really think I should..go….back………why are you crying?”

Grandbabies!!

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did-you-know

There are ‘baby dragons’ in the Western Balkans. Olms are eyeless, cave-dwelling amphibians that locals used to mistake for dragon babies in the 1600s. Dragon legends were so popular in the area that when floods washed olms out of their caves, people who’d never seen them just assumed they were magical cave dragons and then went about their business. Source Source 2 Source 3

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boethiah

dragons have lips

this isn’t a shitpost. in skyrim’s dragon language there are pairs of distinct words such as: ‘nid’ (no/none), ‘mid’ (loyal/loyalty), ‘mu’ (we) vs ‘nu’ (now), and ‘aan’ (an) vs ‘aam’ (to serve). this indicates that dragons are able to distinguish between the sounds ‘m’ and ‘n’. 

the only difference between ‘m’ and ‘n’ is that the latter is formed with the tongue, while the former is produced with the lips 

therefore, dragons have lips 

This is some solid linguistic field work and I look forward to the followup post.

I am not sure what to do with this information, but I too await any follow-on research

i knew exactly what i wanted to do with this information

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“You’re a dragon!” “You’re a dragon too!”

@avariea is a total sweetheart and inspired me to doodle this!

I’ve rambled about shapeshifting in my lore before, and about how the twins were captured when they were still hatchlings, and forced to shift into the humanoid form they had to live in for all the following years.

When Priya took them under her wings and brought them to her clan, they finally had their magic chokers removed, and for the first time in years, they could shift back to their dragon form (after a lot of struggle of course). Their first reaction was to yell at each other “YOU’RE A DRAGON!”, then to touch their faces and bodies and scratch the earth and stretch their wings. They looked like animals who had just been freed from a cage.

Walking on four legs was difficult, and flying… oh god don’t even talk about flying…

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acornrising

Suddenly all I want is a Baldwin’s Brew Breed.

A literally godless dragon, child of no one but this horrible pot.

No Gods, No Masters, Only Goo

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owlapinfr

my interpretation :V

after throwing hundreds of various objects in the cauldron, the vestiges of all the magical elements of the items manages to give life to the brew itself. youre like what the hell, but take it back to your clan anyway. as it grows its clear its much more similar to dragons than familiars in size and intelligence, but racist bigot dragons are like NO THIS IS NOT A DRAGON IT WAS CREATED BY FOLLY but the clan who raised the lil guy from birth is like whatever man

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kudalyn

Ah - hope you don’t mind me adding my own ideas to your design… but a potential drippy partially goo dragon with chimerical parts from the various familiars you’ve melted down with nebulae eyes that see into forever?

I’m all over that. [x]

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