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Winter Is Coming with Fire and Blood

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dany stan first, human being second. also rhaelya and jonerys trash, targ slut, stark apologist, reblogging whore. asoiaf sideblog. everything is queued. welcome.
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If Lyanna and Duncan are spoiled and selfish for refusing an arranged marriage according to fandom, then Lyonel and Robert Baratheon are entitled pricks for throwing a tantrum by starting wars that get innocent civilians killed instead of accepting the betrothal refusals and moving on with their lives.

No one ever talks about Robert not accepting the fact that Lyanna didn’t want to be near him for some reason 🤷🏻‍♀️ I love how Duncan, Shaera, Jaehaerys and Lyanna are slandered for not supporting status quo and refusing to do their “duties” thus keeping the system alive and going when GRRM has been praising the characters who keep changing that system and going against it.

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The "poor Ladies Vs disobedient Ladies" is a nauseatingly rolling carnival where they run over any woman who didn't do what papa said, and then come back to cry over their poor misfortunes when they do. If Naerys/Rhaella would have run off and trouble followed, they would've been crucified.

It's all lovely to just say a vague "They deserved better :/" but if that better wouldn't have come in a neat box of socially approved and duty bound somehow landing in their lap by coincidence and they actually had agency, the words "selfish" and "whore" wouldn't leave their mouths.

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The Starklings idolize, draw strength from Robb and want to be like him, the same way Dany is with Rhaegar. And guess what the fandom does? Take the Starklings idolization of Robb as a good inspirational thing, and Dany’s idolization of Rhaegar as a bad thing. Sure, there are a few metas here and there about the costs of the War of the Five Kings and Robb’s role in the horrors that happened, but people never really demonize him. People might recognize that his war is bad for the smallfolk, and even recognize that his motivations for war are personal revenge for his father, but people will still sympathize with him and recognize his good intentions. Meanwhile, Rhaegar is completely demonized. Everything positive that is said about him is dismissed as “unreliable narration” (because apparently there’s not even a drop of truth to literally everyone singing praises to Rhaegar). Rhaegar’s personal motivation for running away with Lyanna, his love for her, are seen as something that makes him a monster, or even distorted to seem that he never loved her at all (he freaking died saying her name, ffs), while the fandom doesn’t do the same with Robb’s personal motivations for war (his love for his father). And Rhaegar didn’t even start a war like Robb. Sure, he made something really reckless in running away with Lyanna, but starting a war was not his intention, meanwhile Robb did start a war.

And I can’t help but think this is very connected to Dany hate. Robb is not demonized because he is a Stark and connected to the Starklings, Rhaegar is demonized because Dany MUST be wrong about her brother, she MUST be wrong about looking up to him and this MUST be seen as a character flaw for her. Dany MUST NOT have any rights to the throne. The Rebellion must be 100% right in everything, they must be perfectly justified, to justify the idea that Dany is wrong in wanting the throne back. So Rhaegar and his actions during the Rebellion must be seen in the worst light possible.

I truly don’t care about Rhaegar as a character. He is too much of a minor character for me to feel anything about him. But the Rhaegar hate does bother me, because to me it’s very clear that Rhaegar hate (as well as Targaryen hate) is connected to Dany hate. Sure, not everyone who hates Rhaegar hates Dany, but it seems to me that Rhaegar hate only really got as popular as it is because the fandom in general has an anti Targaryen sentiment (and this anti Targaryen sentiment comes from anti Dany sentiment). Even people who might not hate Dany are still influenced by fandom climate, so to me it does seem like there’s a clear connection. Because it’s always everything that is connected to Dany in a positive way that ends up being demonized.

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Me waiting for this dumbass fandom to catch up already and explore canon starks like please you've got all that bloody history over 8000 years with vampire goth flayers for bitter enemies??? Do you not see the potential??? tf stop with this hOnOurAbLe bs ffs😩

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Strong ties to magic, creepy northern tales, gods speaking through the trees, dark past of slaughtering children of the forest, human sacrifices, warging into animals, last giants in the entire world, wildlings, large beasts running around the forests, living in a constant fear of winter, burning the dead under your own castle, mountain climbers clans………. AND YET ALL WE EVER HEAR ABOUT IS HOW HONORABLE AND SAINT STARKS ARE MISS ME WITH THAT BLAD BULLSHIT AND GIVE ME THE REAL NORTH

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We want the real North. The scary, terrifying North. We want the very morally interesting not good not bad North.

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I love that Daenerys Targaryen has significant parallels with all the major ASOIAF characters (as well as with many of the minor and the historical ones too). I love that comparing and contrasting her with them almost always highlights her epicness and/or how special her place in the narrative is.

  • Daenerys Targaryen is not just a queen, she’s a queen regnant and Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, i.e., a she-king. This means that she can be compared and contrasted not only with Cersei and Margaery or with Alysanne and the other Targaryen queens consort, but also (in fact, especially) with Stannis and Robb or with Aegon the Conqueror and the other Targaryen monarchs that succeeded him.
  • Daenerys Targaryen is not just a claimant to the Iron Throne like Stannis, Young Griff and Renly, she’s the only one of them who is a POV character.
  • Daenerys Targaryen is not just one of the POV rulers, she also happens to be the only POV ruler with power in her own right and who isn’t in a subservient position in any way (Jon is Lord Commander, but he’s also the king’s advisor and is running the equivalent of a penal colony, so the stakes are much lower than Daenerys ruling a city and dealing with opposition from half the world; Tyrion and Ned are Hands of the King; Cersei is queen regent, which means that her power stems from Tommen’s kingship). Also, Daenerys has the clearest parallels with Aragorn and her ADWD storyline was deliberately written by GRRM as a response to the lack of information from Tolkien about what makes Aragorn a good king. Finally, if one compares her ADWD storyline with Jon’s, one can see how many roles she occupies at the same time: the administrator (Jon), the monarch (Stannis), the most magical character linked to fire and prophecies (Melisandre) and the leader of the disenfranchised (Mance; note that Daenerys was forced to leave her homeland, was enslaved and currently doesn’t belong anywhere - that’s the exact same situation of many of the former slaves of Slaver’s Bay, who come from different places and have different races, ethnicities and backgrounds. Daenerys empathized with them right away because she is one of them. Her detractors may accuse her of being an outsider, but that’s because they prioritize the viewpoint of the Ghiscari slavers. The freedmen, like Daenerys, come from many different places and are outsiders to the noblemen too).
  • Daenerys Targaryen is an extraordinary conqueror and strategist. Aegon the Conqueror made the Westerosi bend the knee with the help of his dragons, 15-year-old Daenerys Targaryen overthrew the slave masters primarily thanks to her own battle plans, not her dragons. Robb Stark captured castles in the westerlands motivated by personal injury and his actions had local impact; Daenerys Targaryen conquered three cities motivated by her desire to abolish slavery and her actions had worldwide impact.
  • Daenerys Targaryen is not a typical member of her family, she is the main leader and representative of House Targaryen in a way that Jon/Bran/Arya/Sansa or Cersei/Jaime/Tyrion can’t ever claim to be. Their fathers Ned Stark and Tywin Lannister had large roles in the main story and, in the Starks’ case, their older brother Robb is more well-remembered than any of them (at least so far). Meanwhile, Daenerys’s father Aerys II was already dead before she was born and before the main story began, which allowed her to carve her own path outside of his influence. Moreover, her accomplishments are already greater than both of her older brothers’. She became the face of her family in a way that matches (in fact, even surpasses) Ned with House Stark and Tywin with House Lannister.
  • Daenerys Targaryen is not a typical mother, she’s both Mother of Dragons and Mhysa. Her motherhood is transcendental in a way that Catelyn’s or Cersei’s aren’t because it is not related to blood ties or to her fertility. Instead, it’s associated with her unprecedented feat of reviving an extinct species, with her ability to make up the magic as she goes along, with her leadership, with her revolutionary nature, with her compassion for thousands of people. Additionally, unlike the other major mothers, Daenerys is the only one who isn’t doomed to go “mad” despite all the losses and hardships she faced.
  • Daenerys Targaryen is a hero, which is especially clear when her actions are contrasted with House Stark’s, whose brand of “heroism” has been mostly to react to personal injury so far. Ned Stark participated in Robert’s Rebellion because his father and brother were killed. Ned’s son Robb wanted Northern independence because his father was killed. Ned’s vassals want to start another war in the name of the Starks because of their loyalty and their outrage about the Red Wedding. Their motivations, sympathetic as they may be, have never involved the commoners. In contrast, GRRM had Daenerys empathize with the former slaves, start a war in their name and abolish slavery despite them not being associated with her through oath of fealty or blood relations or lands. She was specifically singled out by the author as the one leader who “wants equality for everyone”. It’s a stark contrast (pun intended) to the actions of the main family (at least as a unit) of the story. Sadly, it’s easier (for some fans) to root for the heroes mostly reacting to personal injury who never made any mistakes of large scale consequences since they never got to be in authority. Or for the heroes fighting against ice zombies (though, to be fair, Jon haven’t even faced them in ADWD, his main challenge was to conciliate the Free Folk and the Night’s Watch, so the stakes of his storyline are much lower when one compares his problems with Dany dealing with enemies from all over Essos raising armies to defeat her). It’s harder to do the same with the hero who takes an active stance against social injustices and who wrestles with hard questions about when political violence is justified (which never have easy, clear-cut answers) and all the negative ramifications that come with them.
  • Oh, and have I mentioned that Daenerys Targaryen is the character with the most overt clues of being Azor Ahai/Prince That Was Promised/Stallion Who Mounts the World? Like with the birth of the dragons, uniting all the khalasars and then leading humanity to victory against the Others will be two more unparalleled feats of hers among the characters of the current timeline. Additionally, as she becomes surrounded and influenced by prophecies, we get to see how Daenerys has a healthy relationship with them in contrast to other characters like Cersei and Stannis.

All these attributes and accomplishments are made even more remarkable when one contrasts them with what doesn’t necessarily make Daenerys Targaryen unique. Yes, Daenerys became the most powerful person in her world, but she also lived in poverty among lowborn people without the privilege of a castle or a formal education, which lends itself to comparisons with Davos and Melisandre. Yes, Daenerys is a queen, but she’s also a young girl who loves songs and stories and idealizes her family members, which lends itself to comparisons with Arya, Brienne and Sansa. Yes, Daenerys is a loving, compassionate mother, but she was also raised by her abuser throughout all of her formative years, which lends itself to comparisons with dysfunctional families like the Lannisters, the Greyjoys and the Cleganes. And so on.

Daenerys Targaryen has a very special place in the narrative, which I think should be acknowledged not only to appreciate her character, but also to understand why GRRM chose to isolate her from everyone else. Why would GRRM be confident that his readers would still be interested in Daenerys despite the fact that she doesn’t interact with any of his other major characters for most of the story? Is it merely because of her dragons, as her detractors say?

No.

It’s because, as the list above showed, Daenerys’s narrative importance and accomplishments are unmatched. They had to be. Daenerys’s character and storyline had to be connected to pretty much everyone else’s in significant, thematic ways in order for her to earn an entire continent, as well as her place as the Fire of ASOIAF. That is why Daenerys is guaranteed to have a major role in all the three main plotlines of ASOIAF. That is why Daenerys is so iconic and represents this book series in a way that no individual Stark could ever do. That is why Daenerys has to be so many things at the same time: a POV character and a claimant to the Iron Throne, a mother and the main representative of her family, the most powerful person in her world and a former slave, a ruler and a conqueror, a she-king and a young girl, quite possibly the story’s main hero and savior. That no other ASOIAF character can come close to her narrative importance or to her in-universe accomplishments is kind of the point because Daenerys had to encompass everything that is great about ASOIAF in order to carry her own storyline. And I’m excited for TWOW because, as she moves closer to Westeros, her importance will only increase more and more.

Daenerys Targaryen is like fine wine. She gets better and better the more time passes, the more you think about her and the more you realize how all the other ASOIAF storylines somehow lead back to hers. Dany’s storyline almost always looks that much more epic and greater in comparison to them because she carries her storyline on her own, so the author had to make sure she caught our attention.

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