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this is about mycroft
a-darling-thing reblogged
i love the inside of mycroft’s jacket…it’s almost like…he’s coated in red…wonder what that could mean
lissj96 replied to your post “I’m really starting to wonder if we are going to have a big time hop...”
Just a thought but he would conceal a woman's body as well I believe. It could be Mary, Molly, Hudders.
I would think that an adult female would be too large for him to fully conceal in that shot (like you’d at least see an arm or something, or the sheets pulling over the curve of the edge of their body). It’s also clearly someone important to him, just given the sad tone of the shot, and the body language John is exhibiting, so nothing against Molly, but I doubt it’s her.
We know Mary is alive and well later in the episode, so if it’s her, I’d also be surprised (unless there’s a time hop, or that shot of John is near the end of the episode).
Mrs. Hudson is an option. I’m like 99.9% sure she is going to die sometime this season (simply because of Una Stubb’s age, and the extra-long hiatus they keep mentioning), and I don’t think we saw her associated with any episode 3 filming that I can recall. But we also know that Una was not involved with any of the Cardiff College filming during setlock, which is where they had the hospital sets set up. So unless they snuck her in the back door, I think that our options are Sherlock, Mary (Ben and Amanda were both present for filming there) or Rosie.
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Sherlock’s Choice
Steven Moffat has a fondness for making his characters make a choice. If the ‘I love you’ trailer really truly (god help us all) shows something like Sherlock needing to choose between killing John or Mycroft, whether it’s symbolic or MP or real…either way we should remember that Sherlock’s choice between John and Mycroft has been a thing since ASiP. In fact, it defines the beginning and ending of Sherlock’s character arc, so it’s no surprise that we’re possibly getting a scenario like this around the time of the climax of the story (the climax being johnlock). Here are just a couple of really nice examples…
Sherlock’s choice was foreshadowed in TSoT in this scene:
Did you ever notice that this line makes zero sense? Sherlock says “vatican cameos”, Mary asks what that means, and John replies completely nonsensically:
“Battle stations. Someone’s going to die.”
What battle stations? Huh? Where? Stations?? When Sherlock says “Vatican cameos” in ASiB, it essentially means duck/take cover. So why doesn’t it mean “duck” in this case? I think it still does, just not on the surface level.
Battle stations in this context means that John and Mycroft take their positions at either side of Sherlock, like two corners of a boxing rink. John and Mycroft compete for Sherlock’s heart, and this battle is between them. Already in this episode we have mention of “into battle” which makes reference to matters of the heart, not actual crime solving.
This is not to do with the Mayfly man. John in the gif above is not fidgeting nervously and adjusting his suit because he’s worried about Sholto, he’s (subtextually) steeling himself for Sherlock’s decision - Sherlock will choose, and the loser will die.
Sherlock chooses. As Sherlock says “not you, not you”, he casts off Mycroft’s influence and chooses John, with Mycroft’s spooky obituary-like image splitting and fading away, and a kind-of love confession that is as explicit as we were going to get in the third series. It was to hold us over until the next time Sherlock chooses, possibly in a more textual way. Sherlock’s confession at the moment he makes his choice might be upgraded next time from “It’s always you” to “I love you”.
When Sherlock chooses John over Mycroft, he chooses love over isolation.
Mycroft represents the beginning of Sherlock’s character arc because the show begins with Sherlock’s broken heart, and his intent to remain alone mostly because Mycroft has taught him that alone protects him. He wants to be the cold machine that his brother has been successful at becoming, but of course John’s presence in his life leads him down a path of discovering that the “alone protects me” approach is in fact killing him, and that John’s love is the only thing that will save his life.
Sherlock might discover which path is the one he needs to take, but the story will still be sure to give us a scenario where Sherlock actually needs to make this choice in a super high stakes situation. I know that many people see this potential choice situation as simply a heart wrenching plot device that any two characters could potentially be thrown into. But it’s going to be John or Mycroft for a very good reason, which is that these two characters represents Sherlock’s two paths he might choose, one that leads to love, the other in the opposite direction - loneliness and ultimately (metaphorical) death. Which is why I wrote 30K words in a three-part meta over here about how John versus Mycroft is the hidden premise of the show, and how Mycroft represents the opposing force on Sherlock’s heart, leading him away from John’s love, not towards it.
Also in that meta is why, of John and Mycroft, neither can live while the other survives. It’s a game, with one move, and one survivor.
THE GOOD BOTTLE or THE BAD BOTTLE - SHERLOCK’S CHOICE
The conversation between Sherlock and the cabbie in ASiP tells us what Sherlock’s choice is:
Sherlock: Okay, two bottles. Explain. Cabbie: There’s a good bottle and a bad bottle. You take the pill from the good bottle, you live. You take the pill from the bad bottle, you die. Sherlock: And you know which is which? Cabbie: Course I know. Sherlock: But I don’t. Cabbie: Wouldn’t be a game if you knew. You’re the one who chooses. Sherlock: Why should I? I’ve got nothing to go on. What’s in it for me? Cabbie: I aven’t told you the best bit yet. Whatever bottle you choose, I take the pill from the other one, and then together, we take our medicine. I won’t cheat. It’s your choice. I’ll take whatever pill you don’t. Sherlock: This is what you did to the rest of them; you gave them a choice. Cabbie: And now I’m giving you one. You take your time. Get yourself together. I want your best game. Sherlock: It’s not a game, it’s chance. Cabbie: It’s not chance Mr. Holmes. It’s chess. It’s a game of chess. With one move, and one survivor.
Sherlock has to choose life or death in ASiP, but he doesn’t know which is which. As he says, he has no way of knowing. The subtext of this is the fact that choice is an illusion when we are brainwashed and coerced into believing that something that’s bad for us is actually good for us and vice versa, leading us astray and making it impossible to see the chance at love when it’s staring us in the face. Misinformation has blinded Sherlock to the truth and this is why Sherlock doesn’t know which pill is the good pill, and therefore possibly why we will get a similar situation in S4 where Sherlock can’t decide which person he will leave standing. He doesn’t know which pill to choose.
It’s not a game anymore.
Before John came into his life, Sherlock didn’t have choice. He just had Mycroft to emulate to try and protect himself from harm. There was only Mycroft around to convince him that caring was not an advantage. But the subtext shows us in ASiP that Sherlock was suicidal before he met John, so Mycroft’s influence was not working. Instead, being alone was killing him.
So before John, there was only a bad pill. But then John walks into Sherlock’s life and suddenly Sherlock has another choice. John is the good pill. Fate stepped in and offered Sherlock a choice other than death. And as the cabbie says, THIS, this is the move…
That cute little pill bottle that the cabbie pushes towards Sherlock?? It’s John. Sherlock is handed just one chance, a chance to escape death, so long as he chooses correctly. Two pills; Mycroft’s way, or John’s way. Isolation or love. Sherlock rejecting Mycroft’s influence and accepting John’s offer of love is the climax/end point of his character arc. In ASiP he chose the wrong pill, but by TSoT he had gotten it right. Once he chose poorly, the other time he chose wisely. Which will Sherlock choose in S4? Will it be real or MP or nightmare? Are we all going to die? Either way, read up here in this meta by @heimishtheidealhusband about why TAB told us that Mycroft’s death is synonymous with johnlock becomming canon. That is, we’ve already been told that Sherlock will choose John, and Mycroft will die. I always hoped it would be a metaphorical death. I’m going to keep on hoping. Tags under cut.
Beautiful. I still hold out hope that Mycroft mayake it out of all of this alive, but whether he does or not, well…Sherlock’s choice is clear.
This is awesome. The Ice man, the Virgin (metaphorically, I think) and the Romantic. John (love) saves Sherlock from self-destruction Sherlock (love) saves John from self-destruction and Mycroft is the sacrifice.
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Oh look, a chessboard, and next to it John’s mug and a torch in the fruit bowl.
Casuals: Look at this mess Us, some Johnlock intellectuals: How can they possibly show us shit like that, I mean, they know what we do, this makes it perfectly clear that John is going to play a much bigger part in this “game” between Sherlock and Moriarty in series four. East Wind versus West Power. There surely is a hidden clue in the positions of those chess figures. Also, there’s a torch in the fruit bowl Moriarty took the apple from in TRF, and John is the conductor of light, and when Moriarty carved the IOU he was literally talking about “The Final Problem” which is now the title of episode three-
skulls-and-tea
don’t expose me like this
But in addition to that, could someone check, if this is a chess situation of any significance?
waitingforgarridebs
I was talking to @jenna221b earlier (back me up on this), that I would totally try to analyse the position of the figures on the chess board, but actually this is probably something that Mia would want to write.
hahaha <3 @waitingforgarridebs
Actually, I don’t know much about chess, just that there are certain set ups that the expert’s eyes recognizes as something used in 1924 to beat XY with a congenial strategy. ;) But I wouldn’t know how to do the research. So if you have any idea,go for it, please! :)
I cant tell which of the pieces is lying down, but it looks as though the person on the white side had knocked over their own king as if they had just lost the game. A knight and the two bishops on the black side had the king in checkmate, and unable to move.
I actually think it’s the white queen that’s knocked over, which doesn’t bode well for poor Mycroft... Though it might be a bishop. It’s kind of hard to tell.
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Mycroft is going to die.
It’s like people forget that Gatiss himself slipped up at SDCC this year and almost admitted he wrote Mycroft out of the show this season. Moffat rushed to cover for him, but it happened.
Pair that with all the hints from setlock, the heavy foreshadowing in TAB, and that abandoned umbrella and other death symbolism surrounding Sherlock in that new promo image (new adult sized skull behind Sherlock, book titled ‘Easing the Passing’ just to the right of Mycroft’s umbrella), and I’m considering it confirmed.
lmirandas
I KNOW HE IS GOING TO DIE BUT I WILL HATE ITñ
omg @sussexbound I was just about to post THE EXACT SAME THING I had in my drafts! So I’ll just share it here as contribution! ^,^
So, I’ve been dreading this list for a long time, but yesterday’s promo pic just made it too real for me too and I had to. So, in the spirit of preparing myself for the inevitable, I was enlisting some of the many hints at Mycroft’s demise:
- S4 described as “tough”, “devastating”, “terminal" and “tragic”, with “things that come back to bite you” and “chickens come to roost”.
- Mycroft paying for his ‘sins’. I think being under Moriarty’s thumb all this time will make him embrace his own death, he will verbalize his regret to Sherlock in his last moments. He’ll not only say sorry for this, but for teaching Sherlock the whole ‘conceal don’t feel’ shit that caused Sherlock so much pain. The way I see it, making Mycroft die would be a poetic (and painful) way of making that idea die too. It’s time for Sherlock to bury the embodiement of that way of life, and start a new one, with John, who’s precisely the personification of the opposite.
- In ‘Great Expectations’ -Mark’s favourite novel, which he basically told us to keep in mind here, and I don’t doubt it because it’s too trmojas- Pip’s benefactor Magwich, as well as the eccentric old lady Miss Havisham who basically brought him up, both die. Miss Havisham ends up repentant for the way she always treated Pip and begging for Pip’s forgiveness, which she gets. And Magwitch feels that his sentence is God’s forgiveness and dies at peace. Tell me if that’s not basically my previous point. And oh boy how do they die. But that’s for another post.
- The mirrors in TBB most likely foreshadow it: Zhi Zhu, controlled by General Shan, killed his own sister Soo Lin. John saves Sherlock from being strangled by Zhi Zhu, who ends up killed = Mycroft, controlled by Moriarty, emotionally ‘killed’ his own brother Sherlock. John saves Sherlock from being figuratively strangled by Mycroft’s ‘don’t get involved’ precept, and Mycroft will end up getting himself killed.
- Mirrors in THoB as well: Frankland, having fed lies to Henry (who considers him his uncle) for 20 years, ends up stepping on a grenade = Mycroft, having fed lies to Sherlock (who has him in the pedestal a father usually is) for most of his life, will end up dead.
- That poignant, ironic “caring is not an advantage” scene at the morgue in ASiB. Sherlock is literally looking at a family grieving the loss of their loved one while by his side stands Mycroft, who’s life revolves around caring for him (in his own wrong way, of course).
- In TSoT, Sherlock calls him a ‘spectre’, a ghost, an incorporeal spirit.
- The “your loss would break my heart”/“what the hell am I supposed to say to that” exchange in HLV. We’ll get to see what Sherlock says.
- The trailer telling us “everyone they know is under threat” and then transitioning to both Mrs Hudson AND Mycroft.
- The whole ‘consumption’ parallel between Emelia and Mycroft in TAB. They both know they’re ‘not long for this world’ so we can safely assume Mycroft is gonna ‘make his death count’ as well, in a way to redeem himself, for a good cause, like a Martyr. Maybe saving John and therefore Sherlock. Or taking Mary down with him?
- His entire ominous atitude in TAB with the “tick tock” death bet and at the end when passing John the baton of Sherlock’s safety with the “take care of him, please”.
- Sherlock standing beside Emelia’s stone which reads ‘beloved sister’ which could very well foreshadow Mycroft’s reading ‘beloved brother’.
- Mycroft holding the bloody ‘Miss Me’ note in TAB, as if asking Sherlock if he’s gonna miss him when he’s gone.
- The new promo pic that Sussex already mentioned, with a sad/grieving Sherlock, the extra grown up human skull behind him, the solitary umbrella, the “Easing the Passing” book, and the drowned Miss Me music sheet, which @iamjohnlocked4life noted reminds us of said ‘Miss Me’ note in TAB.
- The Daisies in Mycroft’s pocket square from the new promo pic meaning farewell/departure/innocence, like @green-violin-bow noted in this post.
Those are the ones I can recall atm, but I’m sure there’s more, feel free to add. This is painful, I know. But I thought it’s better to be prepared like this, hope it helps you guys as well. :’(
waitingforgarridebs
Off the top of my head I can only add the Bainbridge / Sholto / red striped trousers foreshadowing to this excellent list.
And regarding the “being prepared”, I stopped counting a long time ago, but despite the numerous scenarious @jenna221b and I already came up with, I don’t think we’ll ever be ready.
And what if Sherlock’s reaction seen in the trailer, at the morgue, is his reaction of finding out Mycroft, his dear brother is dead. Plus why he’s seen being followed around the woman in red(who most likely is in his mind palace as Setlock has shown), how lonely and heartbroken he is in the trailer(and the most likely funeral than christening, as in one of the promo pics everyone seems serious and dressed in black) Everything leads towards Mycroft’s death and evidence is all over TAB and now this promo. @sussexbound-main please correct me if I am wrong, but this is evidence against the “other one”/ other brother/Redbeard/Sheringford written and being the “demons that have been waiting beneath) in s4.
@softlysoftlyjohnlock, the scene with Sherlock looking so upset was from Ep. 2, and we know that Mark Gatiss filmed a scene with Benedict and Martin for Ep. 3 - quite a long, dramatic one, actually (they said so at SDCC). So, unless it was a flashback, I think that Mycroft dies in episode 3.
I’m also one of the people who is 100% convinced that the promo pic of Sherlock and Mrs. Hudson looking sad, standing in the front of that church by a baptismal font is actually a christening. Because a big group of people would not stand at the front of a church at once, and in front of a baptismal font like that during a funeral. But, the family, and godparents do all stand around the font at the front of the church like that for a christening. Plus the people in the background were dressed in lighter colours, and we have some setlock confirmation that it was a christening. So again, Mycroft is probably around until at least Ep. 3, though I’m not sure how much he will directly feature in Ep. 2. I think we’ll see him feature a great deal in Ep. 1 and then again in Ep. 3.
I think that stuff re: the other one/redbeard/sherrinford will really come into play in Episode 3. Episode 3 is the one episode we know the least about, and I have a feeling it’s going to delve a lot into Sherlock’s past. It’s the episode I’m most excited for, tbh.
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Mycroft is going to die.
It’s like people forget that Gatiss himself slipped up at SDCC this year and almost admitted he wrote Mycroft out of the show this season. Moffat rushed to cover for him, but it happened.
Pair that with all the hints from setlock, the heavy foreshadowing in TAB, and that abandoned umbrella and other death symbolism surrounding Sherlock in that new promo image (new adult sized skull behind Sherlock, book titled ‘Easing the Passing’ just to the right of Mycroft’s umbrella), and I’m considering it confirmed.
lmirandas
I KNOW HE IS GOING TO DIE BUT I WILL HATE ITñ
omg @sussexbound I was just about to post THE EXACT SAME THING I had in my drafts! So I’ll just share it here as contribution! ^,^
So, I’ve been dreading this list for a long time, but yesterday’s promo pic just made it too real for me too and I had to. So, in the spirit of preparing myself for the inevitable, I was enlisting some of the many hints at Mycroft’s demise:
- S4 described as “tough”, “devastating”, “terminal" and “tragic”, with “things that come back to bite you” and “chickens come to roost”.
- Mycroft paying for his ‘sins’. I think being under Moriarty’s thumb all this time will make him embrace his own death, he will verbalize his regret to Sherlock in his last moments. He’ll not only say sorry for this, but for teaching Sherlock the whole ‘conceal don’t feel’ shit that caused Sherlock so much pain. The way I see it, making Mycroft die would be a poetic (and painful) way of making that idea die too. It’s time for Sherlock to bury the embodiement of that way of life, and start a new one, with John, who’s precisely the personification of the opposite.
- In ‘Great Expectations’ -Mark’s favourite novel, which he basically told us to keep in mind here, and I don’t doubt it because it’s too trmojas- Pip’s benefactor Magwich, as well as the eccentric old lady Miss Havisham who basically brought him up, both die. Miss Havisham ends up repentant for the way she always treated Pip and begging for Pip’s forgiveness, which she gets. And Magwitch feels that his sentence is God’s forgiveness and dies at peace. Tell me if that’s not basically my previous point. And oh boy how do they die. But that’s for another post.
- The mirrors in TBB most likely foreshadow it: Zhi Zhu, controlled by General Shan, killed his own sister Soo Lin. John saves Sherlock from being strangled by Zhi Zhu, who ends up killed = Mycroft, controlled by Moriarty, emotionally ‘killed’ his own brother Sherlock. John saves Sherlock from being figuratively strangled by Mycroft’s ‘don’t get involved’ precept, and Mycroft will end up getting himself killed.
- Mirrors in THoB as well: Frankland, having fed lies to Henry (who considers him his uncle) for 20 years, ends up stepping on a grenade = Mycroft, having fed lies to Sherlock (who has him in the pedestal a father usually is) for most of his life, will end up dead.
- That poignant, ironic “caring is not an advantage” scene at the morgue in ASiB. Sherlock is literally looking at a family grieving the loss of their loved one while by his side stands Mycroft, who’s life revolves around caring for him (in his own wrong way, of course).
- In TSoT, Sherlock calls him a ‘spectre’, a ghost, an incorporeal spirit.
- The “your loss would break my heart”/“what the hell am I supposed to say to that” exchange in HLV. We’ll get to see what Sherlock says.
- The trailer telling us “everyone they know is under threat” and then transitioning to both Mrs Hudson AND Mycroft.
- The whole ‘consumption’ parallel between Emelia and Mycroft in TAB. They both know they’re ‘not long for this world’ so we can safely assume Mycroft is gonna ‘make his death count’ as well, in a way to redeem himself, for a good cause, like a Martyr. Maybe saving John and therefore Sherlock. Or taking Mary down with him?
- His entire ominous atitude in TAB with the “tick tock” death bet and at the end when passing John the baton of Sherlock’s safety with the “take care of him, please”.
- Sherlock standing beside Emelia’s stone which reads ‘beloved sister’ which could very well foreshadow Mycroft’s reading ‘beloved brother’.
- Mycroft holding the bloody ‘Miss Me’ note in TAB, as if asking Sherlock if he’s gonna miss him when he’s gone.
- The new promo pic that Sussex already mentioned, with a sad/grieving Sherlock, the extra grown up human skull behind him, the solitary umbrella, the “Easing the Passing” book, and the drowned Miss Me music sheet, which @iamjohnlocked4life noted reminds us of said ‘Miss Me’ note in TAB.
- The Daisies in Mycroft’s pocket square from the new promo pic meaning farewell/departure/innocence, like @green-violin-bow noted in this post.
Those are the ones I can recall atm, but I’m sure there’s more, feel free to add. This is painful, I know. But I thought it’s better to be prepared like this, hope it helps you guys as well. :’(
Ah @marcespot, I have so many feelings about your great expectations and Miss Havishem mention, especially given the bride imagery showing up so extensively in TAB, that burnt-looking hand under glass in the new promo photo, and the fact that we have had more than one hint during setlock about 221b burning (or an explosion) in episode 3.
Mycroft is going to die.
It's like people forget that Gatiss himself slipped up at SDCC this year and almost admitted he wrote Mycroft out of the show this season. Moffat rushed to cover for him, but it happened. Pair that with all the hints from setlock, the heavy foreshadowing in TAB, and that abandoned umbrella and other death symbolism surrounding Sherlock in that new promo image (new adult sized skull behind Sherlock, book titled 'Easing the Passing' just to the right of Mycroft's umbrella), and I'm considering it confirmed.
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Baby skull next to John. Adult skull looking down on/over Sherlock.
Babbu and Mycroft are gonna die. :(
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ISN'T LESTRADE A DETECTIVE??
YES BUT WHY ARE WE YELLING ABOUT THIS
natmidd
WHAT IF HES THE LYING DETECTIVE?
vanetti
GDI NATE
WELL FUCK ME
sussexbound
OMG, but this… This fits with like everything we’ve seen in the trailer. Like what if Sherlock thinks Lestrade is lying about something major. We know that Lestrade has always sort of worked for Mycroft in a way when it comes to Sherlock. So like if things go south between Sherlock and Mycroft, and some big betrayal is revealed, it stands to reason that Sherlock might suspect Lestrade as well. It’s quite possible that Lestrade has kept information secret from Sherlock at Mycroft’s behest.
We have that scene in the S4 trailer of Lestrade in 221b, making a motion like he’s telling Sherlock to put down the gun, and we have Sherlock looking wild, and delirious firing a gun. Some people have already made some conjecture that he might have shot Lestrade.
Then we have Molly in the trailer, yelling at Sherlock, “For god sake Sherlock, it’s not a game!!” and Sherlock in the morgue looking at something, clearly horrified and grief-stricken. I mean… You get where I’m going with this…
*omg no!*
Wasn’t I just saying I was worried Greg was gonna die? Hmm.
@jupitereyed, yes you were!! 😭 😭 😭
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ISN'T LESTRADE A DETECTIVE??
YES BUT WHY ARE WE YELLING ABOUT THIS
natmidd
WHAT IF HES THE LYING DETECTIVE?
vanetti
GDI NATE
WELL FUCK ME
OMG, but this... This fits with like everything we’ve seen in the trailer. Like what if Sherlock thinks Lestrade is lying about something major. We know that Lestrade has always sort of worked for Mycroft in a way when it comes to Sherlock. So like if things go south between Sherlock and Mycroft, and some big betrayal is revealed, it stands to reason that Sherlock might suspect Lestrade as well. It’s quite possible that Lestrade has kept information secret from Sherlock at Mycroft’s behest.
We have that scene in the S4 trailer of Lestrade in 221b, making a motion like he’s telling Sherlock to put down the gun, and we have Sherlock looking wild, and delirious firing a gun. Some people have already made some conjecture that he might have shot Lestrade.
Then we have Molly in the trailer, yelling at Sherlock, “For god sake Sherlock, it’s not a game!!” and Sherlock in the morgue looking at something, clearly horrified and grief-stricken. I mean... You get where I’m going with this...
*omg no!*
Hello hugely talented lady! Theories: Mycroft is going to die in s4: Sherlock predicted his death (to the month) in TAB; Mycroft's face/words to John in the plane feel like goodbye; Gatiss would get a kick out of killing himself off. Halp. R x
I agree with you. In fact there was a moment at SDCC, this year, where Gatiss slipped up when talking about writing for Mycroft, and it almost sounded like he was about to say he wrote Mycroft out this season, and then Steven Moffat rushed in to interrupt and change the subject.
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mark + history festival = yell
okeydokey my gatiss fan and history nerd selves teamed up on me so i did indeed kick myself out to go to mark’s talk at blackfriars for gloucester history festival and yes i did take a notebook in case somethin interesting turned up
it was great in general tbh we all know mark is hilarious and it crossed a lot of my interests being a history talk as well but boy he didnt half talk about sherlock a lot in between wobbling all over the show ,,
and yano what, its pretty N*ce even if i do say so myself !! many apologies for how long this got oh my gosh but it’s !!!
anyways here we go ;
#This theme of there being a lot of focus on the Holmes brothers this season keeps coming up over and over again#I think there is going to maybe be a lot between them this season#culminating in mycroft's death perhaps?#mark did appear to almost slip up at SDCC and say that he had written himself out of the series this season#and then there is Mrs. Hudson's: 'get out of my house you reptile!'#I'm intrigued#character death mention#here in my tags#ss4#conjecture#mark gatiss#the holmes brothers
So, I’m watching ‘Jaws’, and a glass or so into a bottle of wine and...
With all the themes of water and ‘Sharks’ in SS4, I’m really wondering if that super long and important scene between Mycroft, John and Sherlock that Mark was talking about at SDCC is something along the lines of that nighttime boat chat between Quint, Brody and Hooper while they’re waiting for the shark to show up--like sort of homage to that. Probably not on a boat, but you know... ‘longest night of my life’ type chat... It’s one of those classic ‘male bonding’ moments of modern cinema, and I could see them drawing influence from that.
Like that scene had such good acting, so atmospheric, and sort of the calm before the storm, and it gave all this back story for Quint (*cough* Mycroft), that gives the audience more familiarity with the experiences and suffering of his past, and the difficult decisions he’s had to make, which then sets up the emotional impact of his death which happens a few minutes later.
I have absolutely nothing to prove this conjecture, it’s just a thought that came to me. And also, I’m still convinced that Mark almost slipped up and said that he wrote himself out of the series this season when he was answering one of those questions at SDCC, but Steven jumped in and quickly changed the subject, so no one noticed. Still think Mycroft is on his way out somehow.
But also, Quint is killed by the Shark, and if the Shark is Mary, then... 👀
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s4 crack theory of the day:
thatcher is baby watson’s name
sussexbound
They name her Maggie:
you know, i actually had this same [crack] thought after posting that. but who’s mr burns in this scenario?
*whispers* ‘Mycroft’ *runs away*
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beardchr
Maybe they really do kill both Sherlock and John in season 4. That would be revolutionary. Killing both main characters. Having moriarty win. Maybe (or maybe not) they confess their love, touch, even kiss then an explosion and they are both killed. We know Mofftiss lies all the time. Maybe the fact that they won’t admit to a 5th season…
Don’t listen to me. I don’t know what I am talking about.
@beardchr, I’m 100% sure that’s not going to happen. I’m scared for Mrs. Hudson, though.
green-violin-bow replied to your post “SS4 Ep2 - My conjecture so far”
Love this! Or what if Sherlock actually got ill too? But he confides in John & they work out the answer together -- but too late to save Baby Watson, & only just in time to save Sherlock's life. It's not a trick or a game like The Dying Detective in ACD, it's them working together & trying their best to save the innocent lives put at stake by something Mary did. They vanquish Culverton Smith together but share the guilt & pain of losing Baby Watson
That would be one way of doing it too.