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TW: S/A, R4pe, Inc3st P3dophilia

What is with Vivzie and putting random ass, creepy ass, nonconsensual shit in her shows 24/7??? ಠ﹏ಠ

I'm just trying to watch the show so I can give my thoughts on it and I get hit with shit like THIS:

-Moxie's dad randomly spawning a bunch of adult toys for his son (+Moxie being S/A'd in the same episode)

-Pentious being dragged into a sex room by FORCE (at a club called "Consent" ffs)

-Angel having a graphic and honestly insensitive R4pe scene (Hot take btw: You should never have a R4pe scene being shown in your media, it's gross and exploitative. If you can't show S/A without showing it happen in real time, you shouldn't be writing about S/A)

-Blitz being a victimized literally EVERY👏SINGLE👏EPISODE👏

-That time Millie and Moxie had sex in front of a bunch of HORRIFIED CHILDREN (while pretending to be SIBLINGS)

-And now this bit in the newest episode?

WHEN WILL IT END?????

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It always confuses me when I see people on the critical side of the Helluva community talking about how "Stolas was better in season one/was ruined in season two". Like, maybe I'm just ignorant but I don't see that big of a change?

The only big difference I can see between S1 Stolas and S2 Stolas is that S2 Stolas is more obviously babied, meanwhile S1 Stolas gets to have more "badass" or "scary" moments. Other than that, I don't see that big a difference.

And if people are talking about how Stolas and Blitz's relationship was treated, I always though that the show tried to justify their relationship even in season one. Again, the only change I can notice is that S1 Blitz got more moments where he looked visibly uncomfortable with Stolas, and even then it was played as him being "shy", "flustered", or "trying to deny his feelings for Stolas".

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It scares me that one of the only "healthy" relationships in the Hellaverse is between a character who is a part of a race of people who are so degraded they can be bought and sold...and the person who sells his kind...

Not to mention Vortex is one of the only officially Black characters...and he's dating a human trafficker...who is white...

How do you fuck up that bad

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While Helluva Boss's songs are full of stupid, contradictory, and plain wrong lines, it's this one that really gets me...

TW/CW: S/A, Abuse

Because...it's just not true?

If it were about Blitz, I guess it could work? Blitz is basically selling his pride, dignity, and life to Stolas in order to get the book to the living world. It would be disgusting and cruel, talking about a victim like this and saying he "sold his life" to the person who's abusing him, but in a way, it would be tragically accurate.

But it's used against Stolas...? Why?

Stolas did everything but "sell his life". Before this line, Ozzie talks about how Stolas "had a smoking wife, a daughter too". But he still does? And even if Stolas "lost" Octavia and Stella like Ozzie said, he clearly doesn't care.

During Loo Loo Land Stolas neglects his daughter, not giving a damn whether she's happy, just using the day as an excuse of sexually harass Blitz. He only comes to realize his wrongs when Octavia literally runs away to cry about how she feels like her father doesn't love her. He makes a half-assed apology that Octavia has to accept, and all is well! Except it's not, because in Season 2, this happens AGAIN.

Octavia once again runs from her home and her father, this time because he was too busy getting a hate boner while arguing with Stella to give a shit about spending time with his daughter. He doesn't even apologize this time! Loona comes up to Octavia and gabs to her about how she should give her father a pass because he's just a poor, rich, abuser who doesn't know any better and is "trying his best".

Even more confusing, why should Stolas care about "losing" Stella? He hates her, she hates him. They can't stand each other and want to be rid of one another as quick as possible, so shouldn't Stolas "losing" Stella be the best thing that's ever happened him?

Not to mention, Stella acted abusively towards Stolas. Whether you agree with that choice for her character, she still yells at and throws things at Stolas. What would he "lose" from cutting off an abuser like her? If anything, he would thrive even more than he does if he didn't have Stella breathing down his neck like she does. Besides, if he divorces her, he keeps most of the important stuff (money, power, etc.) so even if he did "care" for her he's still well off without her.

And that leads to my biggest point: even if he loses Stella and Octavia, HE DID NOT "SELL HIS LIFE". NOT. EVEN. CLOSE.

He's still rich and powerful, plus he has powerful friends/connections. He can still have whoever he wants. He can still command others through either manipulation, force, or magic. He can still abuse those he deems lower than him.

Stolas can do whatever he wants. Stolas didn't sell his life for shit.

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Here's some good Hazbin/Helluva critical videos I've seen (since it's so hard to find good ones on YT)

(Both are by GalXE!)

(Left one is by HezuReviews, right is by Autistic Swag!)

(Both are by Madeline Maye!)

(Both are by Cassidy Whiskey!)

Please go check these people out, all of them are extremely talented. Some of them even shared some insight and clever criticism into this series that I hadn't even thought of! (I especially like the Madeline Mayne ones as they poke into how both HB and HH fail at their queer representation.)

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Honestly, I'm so glad somebody made this video, because I feel the exact same

TW: S/A, Misogyny

I too, wanted to like Verosika; even a ton of people in the critical community seem to like her too!

But after what she did to Moxie all the way back in Spring Broken, the questionable ethics of her Succubus powers, and her transformation into a mouth-piece for Stolitz in the new episodes, I just couldn't get on board with her to any capacity.

Does she have potential? Yes! In the same way characters like Stella, Blitz, and many others had potential. But potential can only carry a character so far, and Veroskia's ran out rather quick for me.

While I do still think Veroskia is a good basis upon which to develop complex and revealing conversations about the misogyny and surprisingly conservative values of HB, her character itself is...lacking in many ways.

If you like her, that's wonderful! I personally just can't watch her without rolling my eyes or sighing with annoyance.

PS: Please go check out the guy who made this video! He's really talented and is one of the only shining beacons of hope for the critical community on Youtube.

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I hate when I'm talking about my disdain for Stolas and the incoherent way he was written and some stupid fanboy runs up and is like "It-it-it was written like that one purpose!11!!!11"

Its SO stupid, ugh. Especially when I bring up the fact that he essentially S/A'd Blitz in several scenes.

"Erm, ACTUALLY- he was meant to come off as a creepy weirdo on purpose! It's to show his- uhh...his- umm...his lack of social skills!!! Because that totally excuses S/A!"

"N-No guys! You don't get it! The writing is bad on purpose!!!"

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Vivziepop not adding God or Jesus into her story about Heaven, Hell, Angels, and Demons is so weird to me.

"I can have Seraphim, Lucifer, and ADAM in my story, but the big G & J? Nah, that's a step TOO FAR!"

(ok there is that one poster in HB but i don't think that really counts)

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Here's some more queer media I'd recommend over HH/HB 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

Wings of Fire: While WOF does have issues here and there, one thing it's pretty good at is making cute queer couples :)

⭐- Rep. Includes: Lesbian, Gay, Nonbinary

Steven Universe: One of my personal favorites! Full of amazing art and stunning symbolism.

⭐- Rep. Includes: Lesbian, Trans, Pan, Poly, etc.

Queer Duck: I haven't seen much of it, so I don't have much to say, but it's a fairly interesting look at early animated Queer rep.

⭐- Rep. Includes: Gay

Gravity Falls: A fun sci-fi mystery story paired with a fascinating family drama!

⭐- Rep. Includes: Gay, Bi, Trans, Pan (I think?)

MLP: Friendship is Magic: A silly show about teaching lessons related to kindness and tolerance.

⭐- Rep. Includes: Lesbian, Bi (again I'm not 100% about that second one)

Feel free to add your own!

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THIS IS NOT OK

HUGE TW: R4P3 & Death Threats

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I get it! We all hate/dislike Vivzie and think her and her depiction of certain groups and issues is gross!

BUT THIS IS NOT OK.

WISHING DEATH OR ASSAULT ON SOMEONE YOU HATE IS AND WILL ALWAYS NEVER BE OK.

Even if Vivzie and her team/friends have said/done horrible and vile things regarding S/A, wishing S/A, death, and R4P3 upon them is fucking disgusting.

PLEASE REPORT AND BLOCK THIS PERSON!!!

They do NOT represent the ideals and goals of the HH/HB critical community!

I REPEAT:

DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THEM. SIMPLY REPORT AND BLOCK THEM.

Now, I need to go take a shower and bleach my eyes.

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